The likely reason Rosenstein was at WH today, and it aint good

[Eliot Rosewater]

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3kj74j/heres-what-would-happen-right-after-trump-fired-mueller

Is your understanding that the president is correct in asserting that he has the power to fire the special counsel?
Technically speaking, the president would have to first repeal the regulation that is in place in the Department of Justice [governing Mueller's job]. Now, it is within the president’s power to direct the acting attorney general for this purpose—Rod Rosenstein—to rescind the regulation, and then [Trump] could direct him to fire Mueller.

Either Rod removes the reg or he doesnt. If he doesnt he is fired, if he does Mueller is fired. Either way Mueller goes.

Count on it. Today is Thursday, just saying.

[niyad]

1. friday's nuews dump should be interesting.

[Hoyt]

2. At this point, trump wont help himself if he does any of that.

[Still In Wisconsin]

7. I agree. Obviously Mueller has planned for this, AND

polls currently overwhelmingly oppose the firing of Mueller or ending the investigation. If TRUMP fires Mueller the upcoming midterm bloodbath could turn into a truly seismic shift away from the Republican Party. They will always have their 30% base support from dead-enders, but they will lose everyone else who they haven't lost yet.

Trump could even get impeached, given the likelihood that we win the House in November.

[SoCalMusicLover]

28. He's Making The Rules

And the repubs are giving him 100% Cover.

He will do what he wants, and we're closer than ever to a Dictatorship.

[Hoyt]

38. I can certainly understand one feeling that way, but I don't think so. If we get out the vote in

November, we will take the House and send a strong message to trump and white wing senators. That is only 7 months away and by mid-summer the writing will be on the wall if we are lucky.

trump is a despicable man, no doubt. But his time is limited, even if he wins in 2020. It's really the voters who are inclined to vote for white wing racists that bother me. trump is just a symbol of that.

[workinclasszero]

3. Under pressure

Trump to Rosenstein

[Stuart G]

15. A great post ...It surly describes what Trump does to people...What I wish is that

this is what eventually happens to him.

[workinclasszero]

18. His day is coming...soon

His party is going to be annihilated in the fall elections IMO.

[Iliyah]

4. Don't ya need congress to do all that?

I smell a breath of fresh air because t-rump is on his way out. But then again, Pence, ugh.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Trump

Trump can try to compel Rosenstein to fire Mueller or compel him to rewrite the regulation that governs the Special Counsel to allow him to fire Mueller.

The conventional wisdom is Rosenstein resigns first. I assume FBI Director Chris Wray and White House Counsel Don McGahn would resign too.

If he wants Mueller gone Mueller will be gone but at what cost.

[Still In Wisconsin]

10. I think Pence is going to end up caught in a lot of this stuff too.

Theoretically if Pence and TRUMP are both removed and we take the house in November...


President Nancy Pelosi!

[hughee99]

13. Other than wishful thinking, is there any reason to think Pence will be caught up in all of this?

I'm going to bet nothing found in Trump's lawyer's office implicates Pence in anything, and his name has not even been involved in the theories that have been floated by unnamed sources.

It would be nice if it were true, but I've seen nothing to indicate it's even a remote possibility.

[Still In Wisconsin]

17. Realistically Pence won't probably be impeached... realistically neither will Trump.

However, Pence did head up the transition team and during that transition period is when a lot of the stuff involving questionable foreign contacts happened. So, in the fullness of time I would not be at all surprised if he is implicated in some things. Will he be removed? Nah, probably not, but it's not impossible.

By the way, I also doubt that TRUMP will ever be removed, other than by the voters in 2002, or because he simply gets sick of all the shit and quits.


But... were TRUMP and Pence to both be removed, which is not impossible, then...

[hughee99]

30. I suspect that if Trump makes it to 2020, he won't run again.

I think he's already at the point where he'd rather be a former president than the current one. He has a very short attention span.

[Still In Wisconsin]

40. Just to play devil's advocate though, I think while TRUMP hates being President, he LOVES

running for President. The drama, the adoring crowds, the cameras, the adoring crowds, the travel, the adoring crowds...

[Bucky]

42. The housekeepers

[Still In Wisconsin]

44. Them too!

[hughee99]

45. He'll go on the speaking circuit, get paid a lot and still get the adoring crowds, but without any

of the responsibility. Frankly, if the government could pay him $50 billion dollars to resign, it still might be the best money they ever spent.

[Still In Wisconsin]

46. I would have no problem with my tax dollars

being used to pay Trump to resign so long as he took Pence with him.

[hughee99]

48. I would hate to think that Turmp profited by his fuckmookery, but in the grand scheme of things

I would rather pay him a lot to go away than a little to continue to fuck things up.

[bronxiteforever]

5. I agree and Alan Dershowitz was at WH yesterday.

Dershowitz seems senile to me. He is 79 years old and does not have the stamina for the battle.

[PearliePoo2]

6. No collusion...no collusion! Witch hunt...witch hunt! Really Donnie?

Then what are you so freaked out about?

As Trey Gowdy said, "If you've done nothing wrong you'll welcome the investigation. If you're innocent, then act like it."

Cornered fucking rat, is what he is. LOCK HIM UP!

[Wellstone ruled]

9. Remember,Rosenstein might be called as

witness in a Court preceding involving Trump/Comey firing . Trump truly is at risk of Witness Tampering ,and he will not have his Lawyer to run interference on that one.

[global1]

16. More Obstruction On The Part Of Trump....

just worsens his case.

[Wellstone ruled]

20. Senator Feinstein made a

comment late last year to the effect,when Trump finds the buyer with the right amount of money for his Real Estate holdings,he will leave.

Just thinking,Feinsteins Hubby is Blum of CBRichard Elis,the Largest broker owner of Commercial Real Estate in the US. BTW,they have exclusive rights to all Federal Buildings for sale..

[SoCalMusicLover]

29. Again With The Worsens His Case

I think he's been given the powers of a Dictator, and he's going right along with them.

The repubs are MAYBE going to say some harsh words, but do anything? Are you fucking kidding me? Of course not.

Perhaps they know 2018 is in the bag, thanks to the fact machines & Russians are on their side.

[Clarity2]

11. Didnt all the pundits

on msm give him this idea? I mean, I don’t watch fox, so don't know what they're telling him, but seems the last week was a slew of “what trump should do if he wants to neuter mueller” opinions on CNN and MSNBC. A veritable class on Kill Russiagate 101. Wtf are they thinking?

[rainin]

12. I wish he were wearing a wire. n/t

[poboy2]

21. That is what needed to happen. -nt

[Stuart G]

14. But....but....Trump said he wouldn't fire Rosenstein...or Mueller...Didn't he???

[Eliot Rosewater]

23. OH yeah, WHAT was I thinking!

[NCTraveler]

19. Im not sure whats good and not good at this point.

Let Trump blow the whole thing up. None of it is happening in a vacuum.

[BSdetect]

22. As the GOp will never impeach thru the Senate Mueller will recommend criminal charges I am guessing.

[no_hypocrisy]

24. You forgot the third option:

Rosenstein rescinds the regulation, Mueller is fired by Trump, THEN Trump fires Rosenstein -- just for fun and because he can.

[poboy2]

26. No, it can't just be 'fired'. TraitorDon has to humiliate them. Let him fly out somewhere

far away, then fire him via twitter. And attempt to take away his ride home.

[CTyankee]

25. My heart sank when I read that, too.

This can't be good...

[Eliot Rosewater]

34. Rump doesnt have "meetings" as a general rule unless they are about something he

wants.

[Kablooie]

27. I really fear that Trump will get away with all his corruption.

He will be able to escape all consequences and then, emboldened, we will see him vigorously tear down as much of our checks and balances as possible.

All the while Republicans will watch quietly, hoping that this will somehow allow them to keep control of the government in spite of it being dismantled by the evil at the top.

[lkinwi]

31. Looks like I had better spend this evening making a protest sign. ☹️

[Loki Liesmith]

32. It was a regularly scheduled meeting

[Eliot Rosewater]

33. Rump doesnt have those, we know that.

[Upthevibe]

35. This was chilling...

Especially that last paragraph...🙁

[Thekaspervote]

36. As we know the Cohen issue is in the hands of feds in NY firing Mueller will not change that

And..
We all know that Mueller has a plan in place if he is fired. This is not going away

[Catherine Vincent]

37. Just got a CNN News alert

News Alert: White House is prepping an effort to undermine Rosenstein

[Eliot Rosewater]

43. Yep...and millions of Americans support this ENDING our country and constitution

[Ilsa]

39. I wish Mueller would decapitate the top of this maladministration.

Trump, pence, kelly, the cabinet - swoosh - gone.

[USALiberal]

41. FFS, he is at the White House MANY days! nt

[Tatiana]

47. Rosenstein and Mueller are ready for that piece of $hit.

That's why they are farming out pieces of the investigation to other entities.

It won't stop. He can fire away. The investigation will continue.