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Steve Schmidt is not letting Ryan off the hook. (Original Post) catbyte Apr 2018 OP
We could have told Steve Cha Apr 2018 #1
Guess it took True Blue American Apr 2018 #4
The real reason? Scarsdale Apr 2018 #8
I will be in Janesville next month...... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #9
K&R! I have to admit, Steve Schmidt comes out with the best rants! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2018 #2
And Nicole turns him loose True Blue American Apr 2018 #3
Good. I think putrid and smoldering ruins are a fitting way calimary Apr 2018 #5
I like him and criticism from his side is important Hav Apr 2018 #6
This is total BS - Ryan and Trump are the same oberliner Apr 2018 #7
They are as complicit....... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #10
Not to mention the travesty of the Bush Administration oberliner Apr 2018 #12
True dat.... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2018 #13
There you have it Achilleaze Apr 2018 #11
He will be remembered for backing Nunes and creating a huge amount of debt karynnj Apr 2018 #14
No, he was deemed a 'leader' because Volaris Apr 2018 #16
I was speaking of his reputation long before he did that karynnj Apr 2018 #21
Speaking of Palin.... moose65 Apr 2018 #15
Divas dont want SDJay Apr 2018 #18
Lol she's probably busy trying to keep her own brood out of prison... Volaris Apr 2018 #19
I appreciate these Republicans that are putting country over Party. kentuck Apr 2018 #17
Those are the kind of GOPrs that we can work with MrScorpio Apr 2018 #20
Ruins of the Republican party wryter2000 Apr 2018 #22
To give him the benefit question everything Apr 2018 #23
Ryan had lots of help Progressive dog Apr 2018 #24

Cha

(297,794 posts)
1. We could have told Steve
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 03:46 AM
Apr 2018

Schmidt that years ago.

I'm glad he's speaking truth to power now.. he might get some trump/repubs to understand.

I'm guessing palin doesn't like him anymore.

Wonder what the real reason is... ayn ryan is quitting?

Mahalo, catbyte

True Blue American

(17,994 posts)
4. Guess it took
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 04:22 AM
Apr 2018

Trump to open Steve’s eyes to what his party has become. Palin should have done the trick.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
8. The real reason?
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:27 AM
Apr 2018

Probably has feathered his nest with lots of "donations" from US and Russian sources. Maybe the Koch brothers will offer him a lucrative position in their organization? He has been a loyal servant to them over the years. I wonder if he will be returning to Janesville, Wi? He does not have the nerve to face his constituents there, so maybe he will have to settle elsewhere. Traitor has helped destroy the US, maybe Vlad will offer him a job. What will his evil twin, Chinless McConnell do without him?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,811 posts)
9. I will be in Janesville next month......
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:19 AM
Apr 2018

For a weekend Renaissance Festival at Traxal Park. Providing it is not cold or raining, both days.

Over the years, I gave seen yard signs for Ryan's Democratic opponents. I am sure to see a lot of Randy Bryce ones. Janesville cannot stand Ryan. It is Kenosha that keeps Ryan in office. I will be there in August for another Festival called Bristol. We will see.

True Blue American

(17,994 posts)
3. And Nicole turns him loose
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 04:20 AM
Apr 2018

Steve and Donny Deutsch are becoming regulars on her show.

Not sure why Donny shows on Scarborough. Joe is so nasty to him. His jealousy shows.

I have never seen Steve on Joe. He has the same,tired old men every morning.

calimary

(81,527 posts)
5. Good. I think putrid and smoldering ruins are a fitting way
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 04:29 AM
Apr 2018

for that detestable selfish and hypocritical bunch to end up. Can’t happen soon enough!

Hav

(5,969 posts)
6. I like him and criticism from his side is important
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:10 AM
Apr 2018

But it is very important to note that Ryan did not betray (current) Conservatism. Screwing the poor by giving even more to the rich has been their platform for years. Ryan has consistently stood for that for ages. He didn't stand up to Trump because this is how he finally achieved his goal. The tax reform with the massive increase of the debt is not Trumpism, it is the expected repub policy and conservative ideology.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,811 posts)
10. They are as complicit.......
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:21 AM
Apr 2018

In allowing this travesty of an Administration to happen. How they blocked Barack Obama at every turn.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Not to mention the travesty of the Bush Administration
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:28 AM
Apr 2018

Or the potential travesty of a Pence administration.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,811 posts)
13. True dat....
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:39 AM
Apr 2018

Republicans today put party over country. They have lost their way. They are determined to destroy this country however they can.

karynnj

(59,507 posts)
14. He will be remembered for backing Nunes and creating a huge amount of debt
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 08:56 AM
Apr 2018

After siding with Nunes, he can never argue that his brief opposition to Trump, before the election continued.

That and creating the largest expansion of the debt in a good economy mean he failed on the two things he wanted to stand for- fiscal responsibility and morality.

This for someone who for almost no reason was deemed to be a leader because of both of these a dozen or so years ago.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
16. No, he was deemed a 'leader' because
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:35 AM
Apr 2018

He was willing to stab his own Speaker in the back in order to fuck over an opposition president.
At nearly every turn, Bohener was willing to sit and try to cut a deal (it wouldn't have been a good one, necessarily), but there was Ryan, leading the Tea Party with knife in hand, telling his own party leadership 'that's just not heartless enough.'

I've never approved of it, but I KNOW why John drank.

karynnj

(59,507 posts)
21. I was speaking of his reputation long before he did that
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:49 AM
Apr 2018

Over a decade ago, he was routinely considered both a top conservative policy wonk and he was designated a "star" by much of the media. He was pushed as an obvious choice for VP for Romney in 2012. Paul Krugman retweeted an old article of his that took issue with that yesterday. https://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/06/opinion/06krugman.html

moose65

(3,169 posts)
15. Speaking of Palin....
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:05 AM
Apr 2018

Where is she?? Don't get me wrong, I can't stand the sound of her voice and don't like to even see her face, but I thought she was going to be one of Trump's biggest disciples. Was there a falling out that I didn't hear about? I could understand it - both Trump and Palin are media hogs who only care about their own image, so he might have seen her as trying to steal his spotlight. Wasn't he going to put her on his cabinet or something?

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
18. Divas dont want
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:40 AM
Apr 2018

Other divas around. The first time Churchy Spice stuck her mug in front of his for camera time, it would’ve been on like Donkey Kong.

Dump is basically Palin anyway. Same intellect and temperament. Just different genders and backgrounds.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
19. Lol she's probably busy trying to keep her own brood out of prison...
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:41 AM
Apr 2018

That wouldn't leave a whole lot of time to attempt to do the same for the Trump clan.

I'm glad she's gone back to her Small and Simple life. Better for all of us probably that nobody in media is bothering to check up on her. The daughter and granddaughter will need about 2 decades (each) to not be as fucked up as Sarah and the boys. It's just me; I hope they get it.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
17. I appreciate these Republicans that are putting country over Party.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:37 AM
Apr 2018

Regardless of how much I disagree with their politics.

wryter2000

(46,094 posts)
22. Ruins of the Republican party
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 12:12 PM
Apr 2018

And the conservative movement? The one thing I can thank Trump for. That's not exactly a criticism in my book.

question everything

(47,544 posts)
23. To give him the benefit
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 12:20 PM
Apr 2018

Palin was considered a brave politician who ran for governor attacking the oil interests which, in Alaska, would be like attacking cotton interests in the south before the civil war.

And for that short time - she was elected in 2006 - did not appear to be incompetent or corrupt.

And after we ditched Hillary, it appeared like a nice counter punch to say: see, we, Republicans do want a woman president, at least a heart beat away. We know that McCain wanted Lieberman, so this was a way to sway him.

I do remember hearing her speech when she paid tribute to Hillary and was impressed. Perhaps even thankful that she mentioned her. (I suppose that it was Schmidt who wrote that, though..)

Progressive dog

(6,921 posts)
24. Ryan had lots of help
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 06:13 PM
Apr 2018

building that smoldering monument.
The psychopath and his supporters have given the biggest tax cuts to those who need them the least and have done it with borrowed money while working to raise interest rates.
The psychopath and his enablers have created an imaginary reality, where the FBI, the EPA, the multiple intelligence agencies, every regulatory agency, and even the Post Office are part of some vast conspiracy against them.
People like Ryan were happy to have that deranged psychopath tearing apart our alliances and courting foreign dictators.
Their legacy is much more than just the destruction of the Republican party.

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