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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere will be no "honeymoon" for a post-Donald Trump President Mike Pence. Mark my words.
He will immediately be forced into a no-win dilemma regarding his former boss:
1. Pardon him for his crimes, and as a result Pence's most notable historical legacy will be pardoning the guy who colluded with the Russian government to get elected.
Or...
2. Not pardoning him, and the entire nation watches a former U.S. President stand criminal trial and are reminded on a daily basis as to who, in turn, is responsible for putting Mike Pence into office.
Those are his only two options. He can't win with that.
He also has all the charisma and personality of a damp dish rag.
Couple that with what will hopefully be a Democratic congressional majority that will block most of his extreme agenda, along with some juicy ammunition that could be used against him in 2020 (basically his squirreling knowledge about Flynn's foreign lobbying work) and I think there's a chance he might not even bother to run in 2020.
But if he does run in 2020 (and unfortunately I don't see him being part of an impeachment "two-fer" with Trump--he has enough allies to prevent that from happening), the Democrats will be well prepared to handle him.
Please don't fall for the trap that we can't impeach Trump because it will somehow be worse with Pence. It won't be. We've got this.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)DURec
FSogol
(45,488 posts)A Pence admin might be even more corrupt than the Trumpish one.
Girard442
(6,075 posts)Pence has exactly zero constituents who approve of him and who would approve of him not pardoning Trump.
Ohiogal
(32,002 posts)it was controversial, too. And Ford's approval rating tanked. Some critics said he struck a deal with Nixon, that in exchange for Nixon's resignation, Ford would pardon him.
Somehow if Trump should resign and Pence should pardon him, I doubt Trump's hard core base would hold it against Pence, after all they still are so delusional they think the Russian investigation is "fake news" and a "witch hunt" and wouldn't believe the truth anyway. They would probably applaud Pence for keeping their Dear Leader out of prison.
ProfessorGAC
(65,057 posts)But, the people who voted for Nixon but weren't rabid "right or wrong" supporters left Ford twisting in the wind.
Likely the same thing here. I'm in complete agreement with Tommy C.
Liberalhammer
(576 posts)The trajectory the traitor Republican party is on.
Vote out ALL Republicans and conservatives at every level of government.
It may be to late, but not to late to rebuild what they stole and broke.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)We are not just talking about politics anymore. It's a lot more involved than that, criminal justice and national security are in the driver's seat at this time
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)It's frankly a stupid idea, completely devoid of vision and optimism, and confidence in our own abilities.
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Especially if part of the charges include cheating on the 2016 election, there would be no way to let it stand with Pence if they prove that as part of the investigation.
Everyone keeps getting impatient with Mueller....he's taking too long....no, he's making sure he leaves no stone unturned and will make sure ALL involved are taken down with Trump, including Pence.
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)lame54
(35,292 posts)He doesn't have Trump's base
Won't win in 2000