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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:24 AM Apr 2018

There will be no "honeymoon" for a post-Donald Trump President Mike Pence. Mark my words.

He will immediately be forced into a no-win dilemma regarding his former boss:

1. Pardon him for his crimes, and as a result Pence's most notable historical legacy will be pardoning the guy who colluded with the Russian government to get elected.

Or...


2. Not pardoning him, and the entire nation watches a former U.S. President stand criminal trial and are reminded on a daily basis as to who, in turn, is responsible for putting Mike Pence into office.


Those are his only two options. He can't win with that.

He also has all the charisma and personality of a damp dish rag.

Couple that with what will hopefully be a Democratic congressional majority that will block most of his extreme agenda, along with some juicy ammunition that could be used against him in 2020 (basically his squirreling knowledge about Flynn's foreign lobbying work) and I think there's a chance he might not even bother to run in 2020.

But if he does run in 2020 (and unfortunately I don't see him being part of an impeachment "two-fer" with Trump--he has enough allies to prevent that from happening), the Democrats will be well prepared to handle him.

Please don't fall for the trap that we can't impeach Trump because it will somehow be worse with Pence. It won't be. We've got this.


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There will be no "honeymoon" for a post-Donald Trump President Mike Pence. Mark my words. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2018 OP
Your post makes Mother cry leftstreet Apr 2018 #1
Plus all of the RW grifters (epeically the Evangelicals) will flood in, ready to fill their pockets. FSogol Apr 2018 #2
Definitely pardon. Girard442 Apr 2018 #3
When Ford pardoned Nixon Ohiogal Apr 2018 #4
Nixon's Hard Core Base Didn't Hold It Against Ford ProfessorGAC Apr 2018 #5
The most important thing is to stop Liberalhammer Apr 2018 #6
Kind of doubt it's going to be that neat and tidy nolabels Apr 2018 #7
Thank you RandomAccess Apr 2018 #8
Not to mention he's dumber than dogshit CanonRay Apr 2018 #9
Mueller is hard at work making sure they both go down together. cbdo2007 Apr 2018 #10
Good point. I hadn't thought of that. /nt philly_bob Apr 2018 #11
At rotten as Pence is... lame54 Apr 2018 #12

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
2. Plus all of the RW grifters (epeically the Evangelicals) will flood in, ready to fill their pockets.
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:27 AM
Apr 2018

A Pence admin might be even more corrupt than the Trumpish one.

Girard442

(6,075 posts)
3. Definitely pardon.
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:35 AM
Apr 2018

Pence has exactly zero constituents who approve of him and who would approve of him not pardoning Trump.

Ohiogal

(32,002 posts)
4. When Ford pardoned Nixon
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:45 AM
Apr 2018

it was controversial, too. And Ford's approval rating tanked. Some critics said he struck a deal with Nixon, that in exchange for Nixon's resignation, Ford would pardon him.

Somehow if Trump should resign and Pence should pardon him, I doubt Trump's hard core base would hold it against Pence, after all they still are so delusional they think the Russian investigation is "fake news" and a "witch hunt" and wouldn't believe the truth anyway. They would probably applaud Pence for keeping their Dear Leader out of prison.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
5. Nixon's Hard Core Base Didn't Hold It Against Ford
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:47 AM
Apr 2018

But, the people who voted for Nixon but weren't rabid "right or wrong" supporters left Ford twisting in the wind.

Likely the same thing here. I'm in complete agreement with Tommy C.

 

Liberalhammer

(576 posts)
6. The most important thing is to stop
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:48 AM
Apr 2018

The trajectory the traitor Republican party is on.

Vote out ALL Republicans and conservatives at every level of government.

It may be to late, but not to late to rebuild what they stole and broke.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
7. Kind of doubt it's going to be that neat and tidy
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:48 AM
Apr 2018

We are not just talking about politics anymore. It's a lot more involved than that, criminal justice and national security are in the driver's seat at this time

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
8. Thank you
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:58 AM
Apr 2018

It's frankly a stupid idea, completely devoid of vision and optimism, and confidence in our own abilities.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
10. Mueller is hard at work making sure they both go down together.
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 01:14 PM
Apr 2018

Especially if part of the charges include cheating on the 2016 election, there would be no way to let it stand with Pence if they prove that as part of the investigation.

Everyone keeps getting impatient with Mueller....he's taking too long....no, he's making sure he leaves no stone unturned and will make sure ALL involved are taken down with Trump, including Pence.

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