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Takket

(21,573 posts)
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:32 PM Apr 2018

Cohen is yet another example of something i find bizarre..........

once again.... like Manafort and Flynn............. we have yet another person who not only throws their entire career away, but is in serious jeopardy of losing their FREEDOM as well................. to do the bidding of drumpf. What IS IT about drumpf that makes these people willing to take these INSANE risks with their lives for him???????? Is he a hypnotist? Does he "know where their children live"???? HOW DOES HE DO IT??????????????

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VOX

(22,976 posts)
1. I know that the Hitler comparison is tiresome, but...
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:37 PM
Apr 2018

How did he sway an entire nation to go along with him? Anyone with the power of reason would know that starting a war with Russia AND the UK and US would not go well.

His populist/nationalist propaganda was to “make Germany great again.” Instead, he made it notorious.

The ending of that horrific chapter was one of death on a massive scale, devastation and well-deserved humiliation.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
2. They have always been corrupt scummy types
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:39 PM
Apr 2018

They weren't good law abiding types before trump.

Especially manafort.

BumRushDaShow

(129,053 posts)
3. ALL of these people have been operating in the "underworld" for decades
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:43 PM
Apr 2018

and have gotten away with it because what they were doing would require so many resources to untangle that no investigatory office could devote the time and manpower needed to unwind it.

So had they not decided to sign on to "public service" with $$$ in their eyes thinking they could now have access to the entire world on a whole new level, then their complicated criminal organization wouldn't have been exposed.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
4. He came from the worst law school in the nation.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:44 PM
Apr 2018

He was never gonna be able to make a living ethically. Being a dirty attorney for Trump was the only way to live big. Now comes the jail part.

Again, why did Trump actually run for President? I guess he couldn't make the Russian payment.

elleng

(130,934 posts)
13. 'Cohen grew up on Long Island.[4] His mother was a nurse, and his father, who survived the Holocaust
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:58 PM
Apr 2018

was a surgeon.[5] He received his B.A. from American University and his J.D. from Thomas M. Cooley Law School, a then-autonomous institution that has served as the law school of Western Michigan University since 2014.[1] He is Jewish.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cohen_(lawyer)

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
5. Kelly was an honorable general. Now the history books will label him as complicit.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:44 PM
Apr 2018

He spent decades to build his reputation. I have no answer to your question.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
8. He did his duty as military. But once he left his bigotry was exposed
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:48 PM
Apr 2018

The bigotry was always there though. And that's why he joined trump.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
7. Money and power
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:47 PM
Apr 2018

Either the possibility or the perception of possibility.

Remember that Manafoet and Flynn were both guilty of shady shit (and actual crimes) BEFORE Trump became president, and in ways with no connection to Trump. So I guess that’s another motive: criminals attract other criminals.

Yavin4

(35,441 posts)
11. When your ambitions far exceed your talents/work ethic, you have to cheat and cut corners
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:52 PM
Apr 2018

Without Trump, he's a nobody. Henry Hill said it best:

See, the hardest thing for me was leaving the life. I still love the life. And we were treated like movie stars with muscle. We had it all, just for the asking. Our wives, mothers, kids, everybody rode along. I had paper bags filled with jewelry stashed in the kitchen. I had a sugar bowl full of coke next to the bed. Anything I wanted was a phone call away. Free cars. The keys to a dozen hideout flats all over the city. I'd bet twenty, thirty grand over a weekend and then I'd either blow the winnings in a week or go to the sharks to pay back the bookies. Didn't matter. It didn't mean anything. When I was broke I would go out and rob some more. We ran everything. We paid off cops. We paid off lawyers. We paid off judges. Everybody had their hands out. Everything was for the taking. And now it's all over. And that's the hardest part. Today, everything is different. There's no action. I have to wait around like everyone else. Can't even get decent food. Right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I'm an average nobody. I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.
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