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(12,422 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Open mouth, insert foot.
lastlib
(23,243 posts)...for Hillary to rejoinder: "See you in Leavenworth--I'll be on the OUTside of the bars.....!"
olegramps
(8,200 posts)It may well come to past that the Russians could conclude the Trump has outlived his usefulness and release damning material they have used to compromise him. They could surmise that the release could be more beneficial by causing a constitutional crisis that would virtually hamstring the U.S. government to take action especially in Syria as attention is totally focused on Trump and his cadre of criminals. Destroying Trump could invoke a firestorm between the diehard Republican base and those calling for his removal. It would seem that the Russians would be licking their chops as the Americans engage in a battle that could jeopardize the basic unity of the nation.
The very foundation of the nation that no man is above the law and that we must act as one ( E pluribus Unum) could be at stake. The grounds for this taking place were venture on when the Republicans in desperation embraced fascist tactics to undermine the credibility of the Federal Government during the Reagan administration as the avenue to win elections. Subsequent Republican politicians have intensify this strategy to the extent that there is little difference between what transpired in Germany and today's Republican Parties destructive policies. It is so intense that Madeline Albright, a former Secretary of State, has been compelled to join in the denouncing this administration. For a number of years, many on this board have been acutely aware of what was transpiring. It is only recently that a growing number of citizens are awakening to the fact that our basic freedoms are in serious jeopardy. Hopefully it is not to late crush Republican Party that has willingly committed itself to principals that are diametrically opposed to the very foundation of our nation.
Texin
(2,596 posts)because Spitler is doing the job for them. He's useful to Putin where he is, as it's pretty guaranteed that things are only going to get worse. Hell, I fully expect before this is all over and done with, we will be on the verge of constitutional civil war with people taking the streets, some of them with high-powered weapons with expanded magazine capacities. He's as useful to them in office and kicking as he would be anywhere else. Besides, he still owes Putin for all those loans he's underwritten because no legitimate bank would lend him a thin dime, and raiding federal coffers is the only way he will have access to the loot to pay Pooty back.
The thing that has me most worried is the simple fact that he truly cannot resign even if wants to. He's only "useful" to Putin where he is. If he quits, he'll have put a big ol' target on his ample backside.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)It appears to me that Putin is holding the cards and it will be determined solely by what is most profitable to him. I really don't know what will happen if Trump is removed from office. Would he go in hang-dog disgrace or would it be in keeping with his mentality that preceded the election in which he claimed that if he lost that it would be because the system was rigged and he would not concede. If that happened then indeed we might be facing a civil war. There is no doubt that we have plenty of ammunition and weapons to have a full blown shoot out. I have a difficult time thinking that the Republican leadership would allow that to happen without a concerted effort to stop rebellion. It is going to be an interesting time. There is little doubt that he is a singular disgrace even more so than Nixon.
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OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)bellmartin
(218 posts)Exotica
(1,461 posts)skadeglädje (correct spelling as the ä wont post in subject line)
and I am full of it
madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts).
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)BootinUp
(47,162 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,076 posts)Didn't realize he was part of a firm. He seemed to be swinging out there on his own.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)They could not get away from him fast enough today.....
BumRushDaShow
(129,076 posts)then shut and locked the door, and closed the blinds.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)'Should you be discovered, we will disavow any and all knowledge of your existence.'
In other words 'if your ass gets raided by the FBI you're fired and we don't know shit about who you are or why you were even here.'
sprinkleeninow
(20,249 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)They may not be able to express their political views publicly, but money talks much louder than political leanings.
Cohen became an instant liability.
They have to wait till there is a conviction, I think.
BumRushDaShow
(129,076 posts)Disbarment is coming. He's been out there for a long long time. When someone gets a reputation as a "fixer" one can imagine the stuff that he has done over the years.
sprinkleeninow
(20,249 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,608 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)!= "Partner in Firm"
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,249 posts)'Covfefe Boy'.
🤣
True Blue American
(17,985 posts)That means Cohen signed an agreement!
keithbvadu2
(36,820 posts)Mopar151
(9,983 posts)Cheap office space and typing, etc, and Squire rides the coattails of his "prestige" name. Prestige gone, deal over!
Not the same as a partner in the firm.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)By Michael Closen on March 15, 2018
I often field questions from journalists when Notaries and notarizations get into the news. That happened this week when media reports surfaced that the Texas Secretary of States office is investigating the Notary involved in the $130,000 confidentiality agreement allegedly entered into in 2016 between an adult film actress and then-presidential candidate Donald Trump.
The Notary faces possible revocation of her commission due to the apparent failure to complete notarial certificates for the two documents involved in this matter. The case also illustrates the problems that can occur when notarizations are not performed correctly.
In this case, there are a number of questions about the so-called notarizations and whether the agreement is invalid as a result of problems with them.
More: https://www.nationalnotary.org/notary-bulletin/blog/2018/03/notary-trump-confidentiality-agreement
By Jacqueline Thomsen - 03/12/18 04:43 PM EDT
Officials in Texas are investigating the nondisclosure agreement signed by adult-film actress Stormy Daniels after it was revealed that the notary did not sign or date the document, the Dallas Morning News reported Monday.
Texas notaries are required to sign and date agreements, as well as provide a certificate verifying those who sign documents.
However, notary Erica Jackson is now facing an investigation after she failed to do all three for the 2016 nondisclosure agreement regarding Daniels's alleged affair with President Trump. Jacksons stamp is on the document.
Attaching your seal to a document without a notarial certificate constitutes good cause for the secretary of state to take action against your notary commission," a Texas official said in a letter to Jackson, sent last week.
More: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/377999-texas-investigating-notary-over-failure-to-sign-stormy-daniels
sprinkleeninow
(20,249 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I find it utterly amazing.
What did Cohen say to the notary that got her to to do that?
and...omg..was it the first time?
It is easy to imagine that Cohen et al keep a bunch of crooked professionals on file for moments like this.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)With all the notary info filled out correctly. Plus she says her log book indicates three, not two pages to the contract.
Last fall when I re-wrote my will, living will and all other important papers, every page with signatures had full notarization. In addition, my initials and those of every witness and the notary were on every single page. It took two witnesses and the notary about an hour to complete all the papers. What a PITA!
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Solly Mack
(90,769 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)And the warrant makes obvious illegal activity that violates his agreement to be a partner. How humiliating for him.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)A lot of clients who lean right will find someone else to represent them.
erronis
(15,290 posts)Most beagles that I've known are pretty pragmatic - they will take your case if it seems like a reasonable one and one that they might win. Doesn't hurt if they're pretty sure to get paid after all the sturm-und-drang has passed.
Still, like Cohen, there are some that suck the bottom of the tank and have established "blood" ties with other mafioso. I don't know how many of these are on anybody's "A-List" to represent in a federal case.
Still, given dump's and kushner's backgrounds, why not just farm this out to some russian hitmen? (Oh wait.)
Cha
(297,281 posts)what I read of their statement in another thread.
It's Official! Thanks, dixiegrrrrl!
kairos12
(12,862 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)That's thorough.
magicarpet
(14,155 posts)LeftInTX
(25,365 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)They are trying to save their firm (i.e. their clients).
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)is a pretty high powered lawfirm IIRC.
Gothmog
(145,293 posts)world wide wally
(21,744 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)Every person associated with this administration including the upper ranks of the GOP, is filthy and up to their necks in criminal activity. I hope they start raiding ranking GOP members, especially the ones who are suddenly retiring to spend more time with their families.
peggysue2
(10,830 posts)Feel the same way. I want the rot cleared out. It appears there's a lot of it.
MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)campaign finance... he'll hit a gold mine in evidence.
peggysue2
(10,830 posts)We must be reading the same reports and analyses of where this is all going. The hard part for me to accept is a lot of this information was known before the 2016 election--the mob ties, the base corruption, the Trumpster's foreign compromised positions.
Wish we could have been spared this slow rolling nightmare. But better late than never, I guess.
MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)but the traitor in chief's mouth drowned out the real news- which ALL our media aided and should be held accountable... remember when MSNBC would take that orange asshole's calls no matter what show was in progress? There are probably payoffs to the media included in Cohen's files.
peggysue2
(10,830 posts)outlets/shows and some journalists were compromised. A number of journalists reportedly had their accounts hacked with deliberate digging for dirt, embarrassing, personal details.
On MSNBC, Morning Joe took those Trumpster call-ins on a regular basis, yet now they claim they were always Never-Trumpers. The most egregious comment that stood out for me was CNN Zucker's declaration that 'Trump might be bad for the country but he's great TV."
And now here we are.
If there were indeed pay-offs, compromised reporting, it all needs to be revealed. The whole, sorry mess requires sunlight, even the inconvenient details. The public needs to know so we can move on, hopefully on a more sound footing.
We shall see.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)It will come the Russia investigation, since we know that the GOP leadership, and esp. the campaign, was deeply involved with Russia, and getting money that has been traced back to Russian sources.
MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)malaise
(269,038 posts)you got the loan and wired it, you committed a crime.
This is seriously stormy
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)And GazPrim.
peggysue2
(10,830 posts)details overlap. This one? Another O.M.G. moment.
Ugh!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)OMG..this just better and better.
and of course Mueller knew that.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)So I looked around, and find they represented Gazprombank when the sanctions began, and that Squire Patton Boggs is also a
Washington-based lobbying firm where Trent Lott is co-chair of the public policy practice.
He lobbied Congress on behalf of Gazprom.
I am getting the strong feeling that Russia has been sewing parts of the Gov and legal firms for a long time, even earlier than 2013.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,013 posts)I don't think Mueller will stop with him.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)TommyCelt
(838 posts)We've all been waiting a long time, and this Trump keep's getting more unhinged. Can anyone else imagine him attempting to incite violence should his illegal dealings result in him being indicted, impeached, or anything of that nature?
I have trouble imagining him NOT doing so.
Looking at right wing sites and tweets these last few weeks has been scary; his followers are becoming more rabid, at a level proportionate to this Trump's. These fuckers are preparing for civil war.
no_hypocrisy
(46,117 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)an attorney getting fired from a law firm comes from a friend of my attorney husband. This friend was a nice man and a brilliant attorney, but, well, let's just say his manner could be irksome (he wasn't exactly the stuffed shirt type of attorney that this firm specialized in and he had a tendency to speak his mind without much of a filter).
So, the head of the firm told him one morning that he was fired and he could stay through the day, but that was it. Friend looked at him and said "okay, but you know who owns this building, right?" That's right, HE did. He said "I'll leave, of course, but I'm giving you your 30 days notice under the lease". Firm head sputtered that they couldn't possibly find an adequate space for the three-floor firm in just 30 days, let alone move the entire firm in that time. Friend said too bad, so sad, not my problem. He greatly enjoyed enforcing the lease, lol.
no_hypocrisy
(46,117 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)Just. Wow.
Great end to a Monday!
Woot!
Tidal wave please.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)Too bad you didn't have your vest on........me thinks you'll be joining Manandfraud soon.
struggle4progress
(118,290 posts)I um really uh can't uh um remember when um I last uh saw him. Everybody um thought he uh had um died. Or um retired. Or uh moved. Or something. What was uh his name again? Oh um yeah. "
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)"Mutually?" Only technically mutual, I bet. He's gone. We want him gone. Mutual.
sprinkleeninow
(20,249 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Saying something along the lines of "if you bring disrepute on the firm, you're out".
former9thward
(32,017 posts)Lawyers often have partnerships with other lawyers and firms for various reasons. They are not intended to be permanent relationships. For what purpose Cohen had a partnership with Squire I don't know and it is not explained in the tweet.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)"We are in full cooperation." Boom
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)"We get raided -- you get fired!"
rocktivity
TheOther95Percent
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