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(51,607 posts)So he says.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Mariana
(14,857 posts)It is his job to defend his client.
BigmanPigman
(51,607 posts)Completelyrosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohens lawyer, who called the search completely inappropriate and unnecessary.
SURE! I bet Manafort said the same thing.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)To be buried forever by Nunes, no doubt.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)Gothmog
(145,291 posts)lamp_shade
(14,836 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)malaise
(269,024 posts)NOW!
kentuck
(111,098 posts)relating to Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels?
spanone
(135,841 posts)malaise
(269,024 posts)Things sure are 'stormy'!
spanone
(135,841 posts)malaise
(269,024 posts)NEW YORK!!!
spanone
(135,841 posts)My favorite video from this whole sordid experience.
Well, almost -- this one's a contender too (and I NEVER pass up a chance to post -- and watch it, even if it is slightly dated by now) --
spanone
(135,841 posts)peggysue2
(10,829 posts)This video never gets old. May the gods take note and make it so.
Autumn
(45,096 posts)malaise
(269,024 posts)hahahahahahha
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)HAHAAAHAAA HAAAA
What a time to be alive!!!
spanone
(135,841 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Ohhhh yeah, this motherfucker knows everything
kentuck
(111,098 posts)Trump says, "Oh Shit!"
Cohen says, "Please, have mercy!"
writes3000
(4,734 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)They were saying this was a way for Mueller not to accused of "mission creep" -- but you're right. That's a BIG deal. Thanks.
Heheheheh
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)from a "referral" from Mueller. It sounds like Mueller found something that the NY people should know and let them know.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)So much info streaming in, it's hard to keep up!
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)called it --
"May it prove to be a predictive metaphor"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210462288
BumRushDaShow
(129,060 posts)Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)You're fucked, Donald.
SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)when the attorney and the client are engaged in a criminal act together.
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Response to SeattleVet (Reply #39)
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Gothmog
(145,291 posts)I looked for the DOJ manual but got sidetracked with this article https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-cohen-attorney-client-privilege-goes-only-so-far-n864206
The U.S. Attorney's manual proposes a solution to that conundrum: A "taint team." Also called a "privilege team," this is a group, consisting of agents and lawyers not involved in the underlying investigation, brought in to review the privileged documents.
If this sounds like a strange fix, some courts agree, and have expressly disapproved of the government's use of taint teams to review documents, including the federal court in the same district where the search of Cohen's office occurred.
Some courts have even held that where the government uses a taint team, the government bears the burden to rebut the presumption that tainted material was improperly provided to the prosecution. Other courts have suggested that it would be preferable for the privilege review to be done by magistrate judge, and not a privilege team comprised of DOJ agents and lawyers
The term privilege team is better but I will not be able to get the term taint team out of my head
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Here is part of the manual https://www.justice.gov/usam/usam-9-13000-obtaining-evidence#9-13.420
NOTE: For purposes of this policy only, "subject" includes an attorney who is a "suspect, subject or target," or an attorney who is related by blood or marriage to a suspect, or who is believed to be in possession of contraband or the fruits or instrumentalities of a crime. This policy also applies to searches of business organizations where such searches involve materials in the possession of individuals serving in the capacity of legal advisor to the organization. Search warrants for "documentary materials" held by an attorney who is a "disinterested third party" (that is, any attorney who is not a subject) are governed by 28 C.F.R. 59.4 and USAM 9-19.221 et seq. See also 42 U.S.C. Section 2000aa-11(a)(3).
There are occasions when effective law enforcement may require the issuance of a search warrant for the premises of an attorney who is a subject of an investigation, and who also is or may be engaged in the practice of law on behalf of clients. Because of the potential effects of this type of search on legitimate attorney-client relationships and because of the possibility that, during such a search, the government may encounter material protected by a legitimate claim of privilege, it is important that close control be exercised over this type of search. Therefore, the following guidelines should be followed with respect to such searches:]
Here is the part dealing with privilege teams or taint teams
Who will conduct the review, i.e., a privilege team, a judicial officer, or a special master.
Whether all documents will be submitted to a judicial officer or special master or only those which a privilege team has determined to be arguably privileged or arguably subject to an exception to the privilege.
Whether copies of all seized materials will be provided to the subject attorney (or a legal representative) in order that: a) disruption of the law firm's operation is minimized; and b) the subject is afforded an opportunity to participate in the process of submitting disputed documents to the court by raising specific claims of privilege. To the extent possible, providing copies of seized records is encouraged, where such disclosure will not impede or obstruct the investigation.
Whether appropriate arrangements have been made for storage and handling of electronic evidence and procedures developed for searching computer data (i.e., procedures which recognize the universal nature of computer seizure and are designed to avoid review of materials implicating the privilege of innocent clients).
Bettie
(16,110 posts)and he seems dumb enough or arrogant enough to document it all.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...should Dump go down, he can plea bargain and become states witness. Otherwise, all the documents are on Dump's side and he's already thrown him under the bus.
Or...he really is a dumb ass to the highest degree.
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)kentuck
(111,098 posts)One would think that Trump and his Lawyer would have moved or destroyed any evidence of criminal activity?
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Going for the juggler.
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)unless it was icing on the cake or something. He has trump completely cornered, I think. Every move trump makes will make his situation worse.
samnsara
(17,622 posts)...omg omg omg!!!!
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Pence is a repressed religious fanatic but not the loose cannon like the orange grifter.
peggysue2
(10,829 posts)his 'work' on the transition team and covering for Flynn. This whole crew will eventually go down. There are no innocents within the Trump circle of Hell.
Dirty, all of them.
backtoblue
(11,343 posts)Buckle up!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Gotta distract people from this news!
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)They don't allow this for any small-ball stuff. They're saying that the fbi must have had real solid nasty evidence in order to get it.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)open per Washington Post reporter just know on The Beat.
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)...destruction of evidence already going on. It'll be discovered elsewhere too I suspect. All the documentation will prove badly against many others now, and show destruction of evidence against others.
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)The Michael Cohen raid and attorney-client privilege: What is a "taint team" https://cnn.it/2qphZmy