Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 11:02 AM Apr 2018

Conspiratorial fear mongering about cell phones and cancer, courtesy of The Nation

There was a thread about cell phones and brain cancer here last week. The always excellent David Gorski (Orac) weighs in again on the topic.

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2018/04/09/more-fear-mongering-about-cell-phones-cancer/

Far more frequently than I’d like it to be necessary, I find myself writing about various health fear mongering about cell phones and wifi. The idea that the radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation used by cell phones and wireless networks is somehow causing horrendous health effects in humans, be it cancer (brain, breast, or other), behavioral problems, mental illness, or whatever is, like antivaccine pseudoscience, a claim not supported by evidence that just will not go away. Indeed, some take it a step further, inventing a syndrome called “electromagnetic hypersensitivity,” in which certain people are especially sensitive to the claimed adverse health effects due to radio waves. It doesn’t help, either, that organizations like the World Health Organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) erroneously categorized cell phone radiation as a “possible carcinogen” or that the U.S. National Toxicology Program (NTP) wasted $25 million on a study of cell phone radiation in rats that, at the time of a partial report of its results for gliomas and cardiac schwannomas, had produced singularly unconvincing results for a link between cell phones and cancer, but it produced sensationalistic headlines claiming a link. As of last month, the full study has shown no more convincing evidence. As Dr. Christopher Labos explained last week, the results are most consistent with random noise. It’s even gotten to the point where some have tried to label smart watches as dangerous.

The latest magazine to publish a sensationalistic story about cell phones is The Nation. Amusingly, someone in The Nation‘s PR department thought it would be a good idea to send me a link a week ago, as though I might blog about it. Of course, I’m happy to oblige, because this story is an example of much of what is wrong with reporting on the issue of cell phones and health effects due to cell phone radiation. Written by Mark Hertsgaard and Mark Dowie and entitled “How Big Wireless Made Us Think That Cell Phones Are Safe: A Special Investigation.” Its tagline? The disinformation campaign—and massive radiation increase—behind the 5G rollout. The basic thesis of the article is that “big wireless” is a lot like “big tobacco” in hiding the science or preventing definitive science from being done because, presumably, it has something to hide. It’s the very same sort of argument that antivaxers like to make about big pharma and vaccines, likening vaccine manufacturers to big tobacco and claiming the same sort of disinformation campaign that big tobacco waged for decades to hide, minimize, and obfuscate the emerging scientific evidence of the harm cigarette smoking was causing through causing lung cancer, heart disease, and a variety of other diseases.

No one, least of all I, is claiming that big telecom and big pharma are pristine, as clean as the driven snow. We do know from science, however, that vaccines do not cause autism and that cell phone radiation not only does not cause the health effects attributed to it but almost certainly cannot cause those health effects because the energy carried by radio waves is too low to do what is claimed. It’s basic physics. For instance, I like to say that, although a link between cell phone radiation and cancer is not homeopathy-level implausible, it is incredibly implausible, simply because most of mechanisms of carcinogenesis we know involve as an inciting event the breaking of chemical bonds in DNA to cause mutations, and even the mechanisms we’re coming to understand that might require chemical bond breakage as an inciting event are incredibly unlikely to be impacted by such low energy waves.

Enter The Nation.



Gorski writes a detailed commentary, with dozens of links to prior research and articles. It's a long read, but well worth the time.

Sid

8 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Conspiratorial fear mongering about cell phones and cancer, courtesy of The Nation (Original Post) SidDithers Apr 2018 OP
I used to love the Nation--Katherine Van DeHeuvel et al hlthe2b Apr 2018 #1
Yeah, I saw that article, and the fear mongering in the comments Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2018 #2
In this matter I go by my own perceptions Achilleaze Apr 2018 #3
Just spray vinegar at it, and everything is OK... SidDithers Apr 2018 #5
You can spray vinegar on your phone according to your intelligence, Sid Achilleaze Apr 2018 #6
So, what you're saying is to use my own faculties to evaluate the claim... SidDithers Apr 2018 #7
Put down that vinegar bottle and back away slowly Achilleaze Apr 2018 #8
That's probably less dangerous stupidity Progressive dog Apr 2018 #4

hlthe2b

(102,287 posts)
1. I used to love the Nation--Katherine Van DeHeuvel et al
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 11:09 AM
Apr 2018

But, the direction it has gone the past several years, especially with her Russia-loving apologist husband pushing her ever more into a Dennis Kucinich-like position. Ummm, no. I'm done

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
2. Yeah, I saw that article, and the fear mongering in the comments
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 11:56 AM
Apr 2018

Seems it comes up every couple of years... I guve it all the consideration it deserves.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
3. In this matter I go by my own perceptions
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:16 PM
Apr 2018

I feel subtle, uncomfortable vibes in my ears and head when I hold the cell phone close while talking. It's a definite and unnatural feeling.

Science - whether corporately funded or otherwise - can tell me that their tests prove such sensations are cool and unharmful. Thank you for the input. But I will not dishonor my own perceptions, nor would I ever abuse anyone else for using their own intelligence to make their own decisions. That's free will right there, and it deserves respect. If it's time to use a cellphone, I always employ the speakerphone or ear buds.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. You can spray vinegar on your phone according to your intelligence, Sid
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:03 PM
Apr 2018

If that's what does it for you, ok. But I'm just not into vinegar.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
7. So, what you're saying is to use my own faculties to evaluate the claim...
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:40 PM
Apr 2018

That I can swallow the denier "it's perfectly normal" BS -- or I can use my own faculties.

Huh.



Now, please post something about scientific materialism. And chemtrails. Chemtrail threads are always fun.

Sid



Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
4. That's probably less dangerous stupidity
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:20 PM
Apr 2018

than the "vaccines cause autism" crap. Not having a cell phone is unlikely to kill you or those who have to depend on herd immunity.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Conspiratorial fear monge...