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Takket

(21,568 posts)
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 10:44 PM Apr 2018

Drumpf took so long to announce russia sanctions for a reason...........

He gave the targets time to move their money around to safety.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19701433/trump-russia-sanctions-delay/

One U.S. official noted that the delay in initiating sanctions against the oligarchs responsible for meddling in the 2016 U.S. election has muted their effect. He said that the oligarchs have had a year to restructure their U.S. holdings. "They had to know these were coming," he said.

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Drumpf took so long to announce russia sanctions for a reason........... (Original Post) Takket Apr 2018 OP
Ditto! OneBro Apr 2018 #1
K&R... spanone Apr 2018 #2
Had the same thought. shanny Apr 2018 #3
Reagan desperately wanted to be accepted by the Patricians. alfredo Apr 2018 #9
Ditto for Nixon Exotica Apr 2018 #17
Needy little men in high office alfredo Apr 2018 #18
K/R BadgerMom Apr 2018 #4
What a nice man, helping out his buddies like that ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #5
Nothing any other loyal Russian patriot wouldn't do. dchill Apr 2018 #14
That is tRdump's attraction to Putin. magicarpet Apr 2018 #6
It was that shirtless Putin pic that did it. alfredo Apr 2018 #8
This ? magicarpet Apr 2018 #10
Yes! alfredo Apr 2018 #16
I think it's more primal than that HeiressofBickworth Apr 2018 #11
Treason on top of betrayal, with a side of treason. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #7
What I can't now fathom is... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2018 #12
Now that's treazoid. dchill Apr 2018 #13
K&R RandomAccess Apr 2018 #15
K&R, I knew not to give that bastard the benefit of the doubt uponit7771 Apr 2018 #19
I thought someone put the sanctions language in the huge spending bill he signed? kentuck Apr 2018 #20
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
3. Had the same thought.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:18 PM
Apr 2018

Also think that tRump sees kinship with oligarchs, not Americans. It is probably why he and his precious family didn't see a problem with getting or at least asking for help from Russia. It's just one big club they wanna belong to.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
9. Reagan desperately wanted to be accepted by the Patricians.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 12:24 AM
Apr 2018

That might have been one reason for his tax policies. He didn’t have the breeding, and to make matters worse, he was an actor.

Just like Reagan, trump wants to belong to the ruling class.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
17. Ditto for Nixon
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 01:32 AM
Apr 2018

His hatred/jealousy for the "East Coast elite" utterly drove him to a darkside way of governance and thought.



Richard Nixon: the nightmare president of his age

His fans never realised how dark, scheming and vengeful he was. And, astonishingly, he got away with many of his crimes

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/10/richard-nixon-the-nightmare-president-of-his-age/

In this giant, prodigiously sourced and insightful biography, John A. Farrell shows how Richard Milhous Nixon was the nightmare of the age for many Americans, even as he won years of near-adulation from many others. One can only think of Donald Trump. Nixon appealed to lower- and lower-middle-class whites from the heartland, whose hatred of the press and the east-coast elite, and feelings of having been short-changed and despised by snobs, held steady until their hero and champion unmistakably broke the law and had to resign his second-term presidency.

Nixon won a smashing re-election in 1972, even as it was apparent that the White House was awash with skulduggery. His closest aides were caught, arrested and charged with breaking into the Watergate complex, where there were Democrat offices — though Farrell contends that Nixon gave no express orders for these and similar acts.

Other cronies hoped to discover embarrassing documents in the files of the psychiatrist treating Daniel Ellsberg, who had leaked the revealing Pentagon Papers, and preserved the infamous Oval Office tapes in which Nixon confided his darkest thoughts against his enemies. The president nearly got away with all of it. Farrell quotes Nixon as longing to be feared as a madman. The only two men he truckled to were Dwight Eisenhower, who used Nixon for his dirtier tricks, and Mao, to whom Nixon promised he would betray Taiwan.

Even when he was totally exposed as a villain, liar and schemer, he was able to resign from the White House and was pardoned by his vice-president rather than having to undergo the ordeal of impeachment and ignominious removal from office. And he lived on, wealthy, often admired, and conceding only gradually, in an evasive, self-justifying way, that some of the things he had done
 were unwise, careless, wrong and even possibly illegal.

Nonetheless, Farrell shows, the China breakthrough — until Nixon’s trip to see Mao in 1972, for the US Taiwan was China — and his promotion of school desegregation, were significant achievements. Without venturing too deeply into psychoanalysis, Farrell, a journalist who specialises in big biographies, argues convincingly that Nixon’s early years as a middle child with a violent father and an undemonstrative Quaker mother resulted in life-long self-doubt, vengefulness and the pursuit of power. He was always leery of the true love of his wife and daughters.

He grew up in a small California town, attended the local college, went on to an almost first-rate law school, and then began his political climb towards the power he craved; but that was never enough because, of course, he really needed the love and affection he felt he had been cheated of as a child. This resulted in endless secret hatreds.

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magicarpet

(14,150 posts)
6. That is tRdump's attraction to Putin.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:46 PM
Apr 2018

tRdump wants Putin to issue his rights of passage into The Private and Exclusive Oligarch Club for Filthy Rich White Men with a Bent for Fascism.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
11. I think it's more primal than that
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:13 AM
Apr 2018

I think trump has a father problem. Probably never felt loved by his father. He spends his energy in life trying to be the best/most/first, etc., as a bid to win his father's love which was never forthcoming during his father's lifetime. I think he sees Putin as a father figure (probably other dictators, too) and does all that he can to win his (perceived) father's love.

If this father-attachment isn't successful, he will turn on Putin to punish him for not being the source of approval trump wanted. We can already see a little of this turn in his latest blaming of Putin for the chemical attack in Syria.

This is one sick puppy, anyway you look at it. His frustrated ego could land us in a war.

Chrystal ball gazing provided at no cost to the reader.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
12. What I can't now fathom is...
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 01:16 AM
Apr 2018

regardless of this (probably true) speculation, why tRump is suddenly willing to go against Putin - with sanctions and stern criticism of events in Syria. Many still believe Putin is holding plenty of wild cards that can be unleashed on Donny.

I makes me wonder if there is some path of high level communications between tRump's camp and Putin's camp that is planning this game. That fits in with the suggestion of the OP.

........ .........

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
20. I thought someone put the sanctions language in the huge spending bill he signed?
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:46 AM
Apr 2018

...without reading.

He was tricked into putting sanctions on the oligarchs and he wasn't happy about it.

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