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4now

(1,596 posts)
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 09:35 PM Apr 2018

Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak says he's leaving Facebook

Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak says he's leaving Facebook, amid concerns about security safeguards on the personal information that users share with the social media giant.

"I am in the process of leaving Facebook. It's brought me more negatives than positives," Wozniak wrote in a Facebook post on Sunday. "Apple has more secure ways to share things about yourself. I can still deal with old school email and text messages."

Later in the day, the "Woz" Facebook profile at which the messaged had been posted was no longer accessible and appeared to have been deleted. An effort to contact Wozniak via his cellphone was unsuccessful.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/04/08/apple-co-founder-steve-wozniak-says-hes-leaving-facebook/497392002/

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Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak says he's leaving Facebook (Original Post) 4now Apr 2018 OP
Good on Steve Wozniak for quitting and dropping fakebook. democratisphere Apr 2018 #1
people are afraid they will have to put some effort into "keeping up with friends and family" Skittles Apr 2018 #3
Snail mail, email with attachments and texting work just fine. democratisphere Apr 2018 #8
oh I agree Skittles Apr 2018 #10
If people use Google, Twitter, or other social media and think they're a lot safer pnwmom Apr 2018 #5
Google is collecting data on individuals more than even fakebook. democratisphere Apr 2018 #9
Google reads your private email Johnny2X2X Apr 2018 #11
Yes. I have experienced this type of thing as well. CentralMass Apr 2018 #16
#DeleteFacebook JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #2
I have a site, but I hardly ever use it LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #4
Hard to compete Johnny2X2X Apr 2018 #12
You are probably right. I am no expert in how that all works LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #13
Perhaps a mass exodus is on the horizon? BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #6
His choice Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #7
Woz was on Ali Velshi's show moondust Apr 2018 #14
I've considered deleting mine as well. CentralMass Apr 2018 #15
I was never aware of his presence there. DavidDvorkin Apr 2018 #17

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
1. Good on Steve Wozniak for quitting and dropping fakebook.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 09:41 PM
Apr 2018

emails and texting doesn't need to involve the whole damn world.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
3. people are afraid they will have to put some effort into "keeping up with friends and family"
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 10:53 PM
Apr 2018

it's a lot of bullshit

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
8. Snail mail, email with attachments and texting work just fine.
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 07:39 AM
Apr 2018

The whole damn world doesn't need to know every move you make or every breath you take!

pnwmom

(108,979 posts)
5. If people use Google, Twitter, or other social media and think they're a lot safer
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:05 PM
Apr 2018

because they don't use Facebook, they're fooling themselves.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
11. Google reads your private email
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:27 PM
Apr 2018

I'm an engineer, sometimes I correspond with old colleagues on my gmail. They'll email me about software tools they wonder if I've used. Sure enough, I'll start seeing articles and advertisements for those software tools around the internet. Very specific tools associated with my field, not stuff I've ever looked up in a browser, just stuff that I've only ever seen referred to in a private email.

We need a wake up call, we've given up our privacy for convenience and I don't think most people even realize how much.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
4. I have a site, but I hardly ever use it
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:04 PM
Apr 2018

I was told I needed one as an independent artist.

But I never did like it and now even less.

Why doesn't someone jump in and fill the void. Start a Facebook like site where there is no huge profit motive. Kind of like Craig's list. Where you are not tracked. Not fed into an algorithm. It could even be like DU where you can use it for free, but with random ads from your geographical area, or you can pay a small sum to have an ad free experience. But the main point of the site would be that there is an assurance that there would be no retention of your information or tracking your activity. It would just be independent individual pages that you tell others about if they want to see it.

Or at least have it set up when you join to be completely free of any algorithm tracking program, but if you want to activate it, because you want to be fed links that the algorithm finds for you, then fine.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
12. Hard to compete
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:31 PM
Apr 2018

Here's the thing about Facebook, it's got a lot of pretty cool features that were very expensive to develop, implement, and maintain. Selling ad space isn't going to generate the revenue needed. Facebook realized this from the start, they always knew the product they were selling was the user's data.

The User's and their data is the product Facebook sells.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
13. You are probably right. I am no expert in how that all works
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 02:58 PM
Apr 2018

I guess I would be suggesting then more that any ad revenue could at least help to keep the site running, not make huge profits. My point was finding someone that does not care about obscene profits.

And I was bringing up Craig's list as an example as an organization that resists bells and whistles that are expensive to develop. Even resists pop up ads which would be so easy to implement. Yet Craig Newmark is still worth something like $1.4 billion by last estimates, by just charging for employment ads, or apartment rentals. How much is enough?

I think a new Facebook replacement, stripped down from the bells and whistles, and most importantly publicizing the fact that they will NOT make their money selling user's data, would get attention. But the basic ability to post images, stories, and promote yourself or business, have an online friend circle etc..would remain. I would join that in a heart beat.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
6. Perhaps a mass exodus is on the horizon?
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:50 PM
Apr 2018

Nah...people love their conveniences and indulgences, even if they prove to be doing them harm.

moondust

(19,986 posts)
14. Woz was on Ali Velshi's show
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 03:53 PM
Apr 2018

a little while ago. He doesn't think Facebook will change much due to Zuckerberg's "personality," which I took to mean that Zuckerberg has shown himself to be too greedy to give up his business model.

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