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applegrove

(118,751 posts)
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 07:43 PM Apr 2018

Sharp drop in international student visas worries some US colleges

by Parija Kavilanz @CNNMoney

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/12/news/economy/international-student-visa-college/index.html

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The number of F-1 visas issued to foreign students seeking to attend college and other types of academic institutions in the United States decreased by 17% in the year that ended September 30, 2017, according to recent State Department data.

"The current administration's 'America First' mantra is causing [international students] a great deal of anxiety and fear," said Earl Johnson, vice president of enrollment and student services at the University of Tulsa in Oklahoma. "Also, the cost of college tuition, on average, has gone up 40% in the last 10 years. It's weighing on them."

That's bad news for schools that have large international student populations. Nearly 20% of the University of Tulsa's 4,400 enrolled students hail from overseas.

Johnson said his school has experienced declines in international enrollment for a few years now and it is starting to hurt revenue. The university has even placed a school official in China to recruit more students from overseas.

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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
3. The Muslim ban...
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 08:06 PM
Apr 2018

Trump wants people from mostly White countries who have universal health care, free education, have paid leave, who speak English. Why would he want actual foreigners?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. The interesting thing is college kids from the countries that Trump like,
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 08:13 PM
Apr 2018

have very good colleges at home and other places in Europe, along with social systems that they are used to. Why come here except for a very specific reason (those are declining as the world is starting to pass us in basic research funding).

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. I went to college with Petro-kids from Saudi Arabia.
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 08:10 PM
Apr 2018

They had no fear about high college costs, that was a drop in the bucket for their families.

My guess is very rich kids foreign will take some of the spaces, even really dumb rich kids.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
6. I would be leary of coming to the US for anything. It's hostile and damn dangerous to many
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 08:48 PM
Apr 2018

nationalities.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
9. Another Huge Hit to Universities is the Elimination of the Charitable Deduction
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 09:01 PM
Apr 2018

its going to be interesting

applegrove

(118,751 posts)
10. Filipino couple take care of my dad. They worked in Saudi Arabia for years.
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 09:24 PM
Apr 2018

I think both of them are studying to take their bachelor of nursing exams here so they can practice in Canada. I wonder if they came here instead of the to the US. Trump's hatred of Muslims would have been all over Saudi Arabia 2 years ago. I'll ask.

DFW

(54,434 posts)
12. The Dollar's recent 20% decline against the Euro has made US tuition more affordable
Mon Apr 2, 2018, 04:40 AM
Apr 2018

At least to the affluent of Europe. However, the era of Trump has made the USA much less desirable a destination.

When I was in college, one of the newer buildings was called "International House" and it housed graduate students from all over the world. It was a buzzing hive of ideas and cultures, and I spent a LOT of time there, as I could practice languages I knew and learn ones I didn't. Most of the Turkish and Portuguese I know, I learned there. There was one pair of roommates, one Israeli and the other Palestinian, and they got along famously. Mick Maloney, the Irish folk singer and activist lived there then. I wonder if such a building would survive today. Back then, there was a waiting list.

Studying overseas is something I consider to be not only beneficial, but essential. You can't really fully grasp the concept of another culture until you have lived in one. It is considered a privilege in some places. Germany, on the other hand, encourages its high school students to spend a year in another country if they work hard academically, and sometimes supports them financially if they qualify academically but can't swing it financially. A country that borders on ten other countries is practically forced to realize the benefits of its students understanding other cultures. Someone like Trump, of course, probably thinks crossing a border means traveling from Brooklyn to Manhattan.

Though not the world's greatest fan of Oklahoma (Texans aren't known for that anyway), I was pleasantly surprised to hear that fully one fifth of the University of Tulsa's student came from other countries. That is a win not just for Tulsa, but for the students as well. The locals get to meet people from cultures they might otherwise never encounter, and the overseas students get to interact with Americans of a type they wouldn't usually encounter at home.

We had better do some serious damage control on our national attitude toward the rest of the world, though. If we don't, we'll be well on our way to becoming a planetary has-been that used to have great music, cool food, and invent some great gadgets.

Already, one of my daughters, a dual national who has lived in both the USA and Germany, is about to have her first child, and she says the USA is no place to raise a child these days. That is not an encouraging thing to hear from someone who knows both countries intimately, and went--by choice--to college and graduate school in the USA. The problem is that Republicans don't perceive that to be a problem.

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