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In the end gun buttery is about suppressing the rights of minorities, LGBT and others determined to be undesirables.
Squinch
(50,990 posts)if he doesn't want it, but register for it.
If they did, gun control would be enacted in a month.
Igel
(35,337 posts)Pew in 2017 found that 36% of whites owned a gun, 24% of blacks. (Yeah, it's a 50% difference, but recently somebody was given a pass saying that blacks were 25% of a population when they were 11%, and the response was, "It's only 13%." So in this case it's even less, only 12%.)
For men, specifically, 48% of white men say they own a gun and 24% of black men do.
This is based on self-reporting. If somebody has a gun that they personally think is illegally owned or somebody in the household was listening who would object to having a gun in the household was present they may well not have given accurate information.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/
The way the debate's being driven seems reasonable. If you're in the NE, urban, and educated you're at the intersection of three groups that have low gun-ownership rates. Those who drive the media are NE, urban, and educated. Even if they aren't a majority, they tend to drive opinion for those who hold them in prestige. Their WEIRD, in other words.
Squinch
(50,990 posts)To squeeze out your "not that different" narrative, you are also assuming that only black men own guns among black people, and no black women do.
But whatever.
NickB79
(19,257 posts)AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)that was made clear as day. It was racism on steroids.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)sarisataka
(18,734 posts)About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.
Gun-rights advocates say they're exercising their constitutional right to bear arms and protest, while those who argue for more gun control say it could be a disaster waiting to happen.
Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.
The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/gun-toting-protesters-including-assault-weapon-mill-obama-speech-arizona-article-1.396777
malaise
(269,157 posts)I'm taking that to the grave.
And don't forget those who carried the weapons before he was elected
sarisataka
(18,734 posts)Check the picture in the article of these man carrying the assault rifle.
Most news sources only reported the incident. This one included a photo
rgbecker
(4,834 posts)"Well regulating their militias".
Open and shut case, I would say, after seeing these guys walk around with weapons in seemingly disorder and without any leaders or discipline.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)The narrative will be hard to change as they are not actively having to face of actually of defending their lives with them. We have become jaded with the lore of deadly weapons and think they are just normal things because of not seeing what they do in real life mostly.
You find out it's not a cool thing when you see friends or ones close to you being damaged by them
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)There's a bunch of good articles on the Jim Crow gun control laws passed in the south, as well as 'immigrant' control in the northeast. (See e.g. the Sullivan Act in NY.)
sarisataka
(18,734 posts)Every post suggesting POC purchase firearms en made acknowledge that racism. They are perfectly willing to tap into that racism if it reaches their goal rather than oppose such racism and declare all should be treated equally.
meadowlander
(4,399 posts)There's a lot of people who can't wait for society to break down so that they can bully their neighbours freely, shoot people on sight and put women back in their place.
On prepper websites, one of the top five catastrophes that they are prepping for is "urban unrest" (i.e. black people coming into their neighbourhood in droves).