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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:10 PM Mar 2018

EXCLUSIVE: "DNC hacker" Guccifer 2.0 was, in fact, an officer of Russia's military intelligence

EXCLUSIVE: ‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian Intelligence Officer

Robert Mueller’s team has taken over the investigation of Guccifer 2.0, who communicated with (and was defended by) longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone.


Spencer Ackerman
Kevin Poulsen
03.22.18 7:00 PM ET

Guccifer 2.0, the “lone hacker” who took credit for providing WikiLeaks with stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee, was in fact an officer of Russia’s military intelligence directorate (GRU), The Daily Beast has learned. It’s an attribution that resulted from a fleeting but critical slip-up in GRU tradecraft.

That forensic determination has substantial implications for the criminal probe into potential collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia. The Daily Beast has learned that the special counsel in that investigation, Robert Mueller, has taken over the probe into Guccifer and brought the FBI agents who worked to track the persona onto his team.

While it’s unclear what Mueller plans to do with Guccifer, his last round of indictments charged 13 Russians tied to the Internet Research Agency troll farm with a conspiracy “for the purpose of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016.” It was Mueller’s first move establishing Russian interference in the election within a criminal context, but it stopped short of directly implicating the Putin regime.

Mueller’s office declined to comment for this story. But the attribution of Guccifer 2.0 as an officer of Russia’s largest foreign intelligence agency would cross the Kremlin threshold—and move the investigation closer to Trump himself.

More: https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-slipped-up-and-revealed-he-was-a-russian-intelligence-officer?via=twitter_page&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true
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EXCLUSIVE: "DNC hacker" Guccifer 2.0 was, in fact, an officer of Russia's military intelligence (Original Post) MelissaB Mar 2018 OP
snip MelissaB Mar 2018 #1
Wow! Great work Melissa! triron Mar 2018 #9
But here's the catch. Igel Mar 2018 #10
+ 1 red dog 1 Apr 2018 #42
Jesus Christ, I went to the grocery store for a few things, I come back to Bolton and rzemanfl Mar 2018 #2
Wish I could. MelissaB Mar 2018 #20
These operatives are EVERYWHERE, get my meaning? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #3
Of course it was a Russian intelligence officer. Destabilizing the US is an important job. hedda_foil Mar 2018 #4
I was told it was some 400lb dude in a NJ basement ProudLib72 Mar 2018 #5
Guccifer could be a 400 pound guy who did his work in the basement SummerSnow Mar 2018 #40
Remember that we have this announcement tomorrow MelissaB Mar 2018 #6
thanks for cross linking! Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #12
Wonder how nasty the twitter storm will be in the wee hours UpInArms Mar 2018 #15
kick blogslut Mar 2018 #7
Stone had better go down for this. BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #8
It may explain why he hasn't been called for an interview with Muller. MelissaB Mar 2018 #16
Still good to give him the rope Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #19
God I hope so. Afraid he's going to die before he pays any price for all the shit he has caused deurbano Mar 2018 #27
Yet Another Reason: DO NOT CONGRATULATE!!! Stallion Mar 2018 #11
Thank you, you are always on it. much appreciated. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #13
This has been known for at least 1 1/2 yrs - before the 2016 election: TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #14
I don't think it had been confirmed by the MSM. MelissaB Mar 2018 #17
Look at the Wikipedia article: TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #24
isnt this basically what Nance says in his book? HopeAgain Mar 2018 #28
Yes. In Sept 2016 TheSmarterDog Mar 2018 #29
So many tentacles from Trump to Russia, from Trump to his people, from his Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #18
treason isn't a crime!!!!... NOT. nt TheFrenchRazor Mar 2018 #21
Double negative. What are you actually claiming? Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #26
(Old Valley Girl idiom..) annabanana Mar 2018 #31
Wow, if there was no Putin Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #22
And they tried to pass off Guccifer as a Romanian, like Ilsa Mar 2018 #23
Reminder: The Congressional Leadership Fund, a super PAC tied to @SpeakerRyan, used the stolen info MelissaB Mar 2018 #25
What is the sound of a stone being dropped into a barrel? Hassler Mar 2018 #30
Get me Roger Stone! MelissaB Mar 2018 #33
How long before The Wizard Mar 2018 #37
DU rec... SidDithers Mar 2018 #32
Isn't it, tho? ehrnst Mar 2018 #35
You mean.... the leaker had motives other than "transparency?" ehrnst Mar 2018 #34
This is a great piece of news! Nitram Mar 2018 #36
Do we know who hacked DU? Le Gaucher Mar 2018 #38
The first major disappointment of election day. FromMissouri Apr 2018 #41
Now to connect this to Alex Van der Zwaan? triron Mar 2018 #39
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Apr 2018 #43

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
1. snip
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:11 PM
Mar 2018
Trump’s longtime political adviser Roger Stone admitted being in touch with Guccifer over Twitter’s direct messaging service. And in August 2016, Stone published an article on the pro-Trump-friendly Breitbart News calling on his political opponents to “Stop Blaming Russia” for the hack. “I have some news for Hillary and Democrats—I think I’ve got the real culprit,” he wrote. “It doesn’t seem to be the Russians that hacked the DNC, but instead a hacker who goes by the name of Guccifer 2.0.”

... snip

It turns out there is a powerful reason to connect Guccifer to the GRU.


...snip

“Working off the IP address, U.S. investigators identified Guccifer 2.0 as a particular GRU officer working out of the agency’s headquarters on Grizodubovoy Street in Moscow.”


But on one occasion, The Daily Beast has learned, Guccifer failed to activate the VPN client before logging on. As a result, he left a real, Moscow-based Internet Protocol address in the server logs of an American social media company, according to a source familiar with the government’s Guccifer investigation. Twitter and WordPress were Guccifer 2.0’s favored outlets. Neither company would comment for this story, and Guccifer did not respond to a direct message on Twitter.

Igel

(35,337 posts)
10. But here's the catch.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:31 PM
Mar 2018

Or catches.

It was determined that "Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data".

1. This is the release of the information. The former claim was that there were hackers in some way affiliated with the GRU but not necessarily in the GRU. To say that those releasing the info were also the hackers requires some confirmation.

2. Numerous people can use numerous computers to access a VPN account. That a single computer was used once doesn't lead to the conclusion that only one person ever used one computer.

In other words, this might not be quite as damning as supposed in the latest revelation from on high (which means the year-old assessment is still where we stand), or it might be denying that there's something more damning (if other VPN users were higher ranking).

rzemanfl

(29,566 posts)
2. Jesus Christ, I went to the grocery store for a few things, I come back to Bolton and
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:11 PM
Mar 2018

this? Make the shit show stop!

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
4. Of course it was a Russian intelligence officer. Destabilizing the US is an important job.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:12 PM
Mar 2018

You can't just trust the unwinding of the post WWII consensus to amateurs.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
6. Remember that we have this announcement tomorrow
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:16 PM
Mar 2018

"Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and other law enforcement officials will hold a press conference Friday, March 23, 2018 for a major cyber law enforcement announcement."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210397181

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
8. Stone had better go down for this.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:25 PM
Mar 2018

I hope he sinks like a stone and if not by Mueller than by the Russian mob.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
16. It may explain why he hasn't been called for an interview with Muller.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:45 PM
Mar 2018

Muller may have everything he needs on him already.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
27. God I hope so. Afraid he's going to die before he pays any price for all the shit he has caused
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 08:25 PM
Mar 2018

throughout his loathsome, pathetic, revolting life.

 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
24. Look at the Wikipedia article:
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 08:12 PM
Mar 2018
In an October 2016 joint statement, the United States Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence stated:

The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
18. So many tentacles from Trump to Russia, from Trump to his people, from his
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 07:50 PM
Mar 2018

people to Russia. It is like a herd of octopus(sp) and hard to follow all the tentacles.

Ilsa

(61,696 posts)
23. And they tried to pass off Guccifer as a Romanian, like
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 08:09 PM
Mar 2018

the first Guccifer.

I'd like to see Roger Stone tossed into a deep cold lake with a giant stone tied to his stones.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
25. Reminder: The Congressional Leadership Fund, a super PAC tied to @SpeakerRyan, used the stolen info
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 08:13 PM
Mar 2018

The Congressional Leadership Fund, a super PAC tied to @SpeakerRyan, used the stolen info from Guccifer 2.0 in attack ads against Dems.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-alleged-russian-hacker-teamed-up-with-florida-gop-operative-1495724787



"Nevins also received from Guccifer internal details re congressional districts in KY, PA, TX, VA, & WV. The Congressional Leadership Fund, a super PAC closely tied to Paul Ryan, used the stolen info in attack ads against Dems."
Recall @NancyPelosi Aug 2016 memo to Paul Ryan: NRCC's use of docs stolen by Russians plays into the hands of US' most dangerous adversary...makes the @GOP complicit in aiding RU gov't in its effort to influence US elections. Ryan did not reply.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
32. DU rec...
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 10:18 PM
Mar 2018

it's fun to read through some of the Guccifer 2.0 threads from June / July 2016 with this information in mind.

Sid

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
34. You mean.... the leaker had motives other than "transparency?"
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 03:03 PM
Mar 2018

Get. Out.



Some of us knew this the minute the misrepresentation of what was in those emails started. Some of us considered the source when these emails were presented to smear our candidate and the DNC.

Some of us weren't fooled.

 

FromMissouri

(95 posts)
41. The first major disappointment of election day.
Sun Apr 1, 2018, 11:14 AM
Apr 2018

Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen any results of the investigation about who brought down DU. Anybody have a link?

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