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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think people need to read this regarding white supremacists. Linked from the SPLC.
It is in regard to white supremacists infiltrating (or attempting to) police, military and other branches of gov't and business.
The "source" is not one I am familiar with, but again, it was linked from the SPLC site right here:
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2018/03/15/weekend-read-radical-right-thriving-inside-white-house-outside-its-falling-apart
Dated Mar 9, 2018, 10:20am
The Southern Poverty Law Center in 2008 began issuing reports about members of white supremacist groups joining the military in large numbers. The FBI in 2006 issued a heavily redacted report warning of systematic infiltration of law enforcement organizations by white supremacists.
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In the early 2000s, some white supremacist leaders exhorted their followers to abandon the cliches of the skinhead lifestyle in order to infiltrate the worlds of business, government, and the military. Christian Picciolini, a former neo-nazi skinhead leader from Chicago who has since renounced white supremacism, said the strategy of infiltration has worked.
I do know very many people from the organization that I used to lead 30 years ago, the neo-Nazi group, that actually did go on to become police officers in Chicago, Piccioloni said in a radio interview with Democracy Now. Probation officers, prison guards, and, you know, infiltrate that way, and especially the military. Many went into the military.
Dillon Ulysses Hopper, the leader of white supremacist group Vanguard America, is a former Marine Corp recruiter. Members of Vanguard America played a prominent role in the August 12 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville. James Alex Fields Jr., who is awaiting trial on a charge of first-degree murder after allegedly driving a car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing Heyer, was dressed as a Vanguard America member and carried a shield with their logo while in line with other members.
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https://rewire.news/article/2018/03/09/leaked-message-board-shows-white-supremacists-think-police/
I'm really hoping their numbers are small. In no way do I wish to suggest that all members of the military/police are neo nazi's. But this does worry me....
Gothmog
(145,479 posts)inanna
(3,547 posts)Good suggestion!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)vote for candidates like Trump, joint local militia and gun groups that are more often than not, fronts for racism and white wing causes. This is no joke.
dameatball
(7,399 posts)......many of these people are really not that well off financially (although I realize that is a generalization). But these weapons and equipment they are running around with are not cheap. They are not for hunting, they are for killing people. So far they have seemingly been content to limit their "playing army" to drills, target practice, strategy sessions, etc.....along with the occasional show of force.
But make no mistake. There are people among them who WANT to use these weapons. The itch exists. They paid good money for killing machines, so the intent is what? NEVER to use them? I think not.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)inanna
(3,547 posts)"Fields enlisted in the Army in August 2015 but was sent home that December due to his failure to meet training standards."
Also from the above article.
inanna
(3,547 posts)Some of the language in this linked article is quite graphic.
Dated January 31 2017, 7:10 a.m.
The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement
White supremacists and other domestic extremists maintain an active presence in U.S. police departments and other law enforcement agencies. A striking reference to that conclusion, notable for its confidence and the policy prescriptions that accompany it, appears in a classified FBI Counterterrorism Policy Guide from April 2015, obtained by The Intercept. The guide, which details the process by which the FBI enters individuals on a terrorism watchlist, the Known or Suspected Terrorist File, notes that domestic terrorism investigations focused on militia extremists, white supremacist extremists, and sovereign citizen extremists often have identified active links to law enforcement officers, and explains in some detail how bureau policies have been crafted to take this infiltration into account.
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That report appeared after a series of scandals involving local police and sheriffs departments. In Los Angeles, for example, a U.S. District Court judge found in 1991 that members of a local sheriffs department had formed a neo-Nazi gang and habitually terrorized black and Latino residents. In Chicago, Jon Burge, a police detective and rumored KKK member, was fired, and eventually prosecuted in 2008, over charges relating to the torture of at least 120 black men during his decadeslong career. Burge notoriously referred to an electric shock device he used during interrogations as the ****** box. In Cleveland, officials found that a number of police officers had scrawled racist or Nazi graffiti throughout their departments locker rooms. In Texas, two police officers were fired when it was discovered they were Klansmen. One of them said he had tried to boost the organizations membership by giving an application to a fellow officer he thought shared his white, Christian, heterosexual values.
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In 2009, shortly after the election of Barack Obama, a Department of Homeland Security intelligence study, written in coordination with the FBI, warned of the resurgence of right-wing extremism. Right-wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African-American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, the report noted, singling out disgruntled military veterans as likely targets of recruitment. Right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat.
The report concluded that lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent right-wing extremist ideology are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States. Released just ahead of nationwide Tea Party protests, the report caused an uproar among conservatives, who were particularly angered by the suggestion that veterans might be implicated, and by the broad brush with which the report seemed to paint a range of right-wing groups.
Faced with mounting criticism, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano disavowed the document and apologized to veterans. The agencys unit investigating right-wing extremism was largely dismantled and the reports lead investigator was pushed out. They stopped doing intel on that, and that was that, Heidi Beirich, who leads the Southern Poverty Law Centers tracking of extremist groups, told The Intercept. The FBI in theory investigates right-wing terrorism and right-wing extremism, but they have limited resources. The loss of that unit was a loss for a lot of people who did this kind of work.
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https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/
KG
(28,752 posts)'their country back'
that train left the station about 50 years ago...
dameatball
(7,399 posts)dameatball
(7,399 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,386 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)For yourself what side the cops are on. They are defacto armed bodyguards for the nazis. They have even taken to transporting them from place to place at these "events". They allow them to pass freely between the police lines so they can harrass the protesters, while the protesters are blocked by a line of shoulder to shoulder riot/storm troopers.
The protesters are frequently kettled, provoked and arrested on bogus charges as pure harrassment tactics that are later dropped.
This has become standard process in the land of the free.
radius777
(3,635 posts)amongst the right/police, who prefer to just push around the typical pacifist protester.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)just study the composition of police departments across the country.