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Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:15 AM Mar 2018

When we take the House, I wonder if Rep. Pelosi will support impeachment proceedings?

I remember not long ago, I don't know the news source, but she said there wasn't enough to impeach Trump, or something to that effect. I feel impeachment is the most urgent activity for the House to undertake. Getting him out of that office as quick as possible. Has anyone heard of Rep. Pelosi changing her mind?

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When we take the House, I wonder if Rep. Pelosi will support impeachment proceedings? (Original Post) Equinox Moon Mar 2018 OP
I remember she said no impeachment. Never heard if she is reconsidering SummerSnow Mar 2018 #1
So, we take back the majority in the House and nothing happens? Equinox Moon Mar 2018 #3
Let's wait for Mueller Raven123 Mar 2018 #2
yes, thats the only reason I am inclined to not object to her eventual 'off the table' to come. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #5
'off the table' statement to come in August...dry powder, etc. you know the drill. poboy2 Mar 2018 #4
On first read of your comments, I have no idea what you just said. Equinox Moon Mar 2018 #6
Pay me no attention. Others are saying what I am saying, perhaps more plainly. poboy2 Mar 2018 #13
I now "get it" about 'off-the-table' Equinox Moon Mar 2018 #16
66 votes in the senate ain't going to happen njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #7
Mueller needs to convince them. This has to be our hope. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #8
Anything is possible. If the Koch brothers give the order he's out njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #15
What is ALSO possible- poboy2 Mar 2018 #18
Damn right, desperate people do desperate things. njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #22
Thats not his job GulfCoast66 Mar 2018 #21
If I recall correctly MichMary Mar 2018 #9
No, her statement about no impeachment was within the last 6 months. Equinox Moon Mar 2018 #17
Oh, okay. MichMary Mar 2018 #20
yes, impeachment was taken off the table as soon as Democrats retook the House in 2006 NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #23
Can you think of anything MichMary Mar 2018 #26
Anything worth doing is worth doing right. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #10
Yes, Thank You Me. Mar 2018 #29
You Wait for the Special Prosecutor to Issue a Report Stallion Mar 2018 #11
Yep, the process you laid out makes sense Equinox Moon Mar 2018 #14
Remember impeachment is no guarantee that the Historic NY Mar 2018 #12
when she said 'no impeachment' for Bush 43 it really pissed me off RussBLib Mar 2018 #19
Promising impeachment MichMary Mar 2018 #24
The problem with impeachment romana Mar 2018 #25
Our only hope is that the extent of the TREASON is revealed, and the people poboy2 Mar 2018 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Mar 2018 #28
Im looking forward to her safeinOhio Mar 2018 #30
Not before Mueller is done. onenote Mar 2018 #31
Let's take the House. Iggo Mar 2018 #32
 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
5. yes, thats the only reason I am inclined to not object to her eventual 'off the table' to come. -nt
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:21 AM
Mar 2018
 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
4. 'off the table' statement to come in August...dry powder, etc. you know the drill.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:20 AM
Mar 2018

Maybe a good strategy to simply say, but chances are 'off the table' is on the table.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
6. On first read of your comments, I have no idea what you just said.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:22 AM
Mar 2018

Maybe someone else understands, it went over my head.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
7. 66 votes in the senate ain't going to happen
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:22 AM
Mar 2018

She should realize that she has a polarizing effect on the country and let someone else carry the flag.
Don't get mad at me. It is what it is

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
18. What is ALSO possible-
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:32 AM
Mar 2018

Agent Orange starts a war gambit to shuffle the deck...or a major war to completely 'go for broke'.

That could happen too. Very troubling times.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. Thats not his job
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:34 AM
Mar 2018

His job is to prosecute crimes.

It is the job of Congress to layout the narrative of what exactly happened. If we ever get rep. Schiff as chair then we will start hearing what all happened.

Only the should impeachment
start, assuming actions occurred that demand impeachment.

We do not want to jump the gun and impeach without the support of the American people.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
9. If I recall correctly
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:24 AM
Mar 2018

her statement about taking impeachment off the table was prior to the 2006 election, and it was to reassure moderates that the House wasn't going to be tied up for a year or more with a futile effort to do little more than make a point.

As for getting Trump out of office ASAP, it isn't going to happen. Impeachment could happen, if we take the House. Getting him out of office would take a 2/3 vote in the Senate. That is mathematically impossible. Do you understand how many R Senators would have to vote to convict in order to get him out of office? Can you imagine the Rs NOT voting in lockstep to acquit?

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
20. Oh, okay.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:34 AM
Mar 2018

I thought you were referring to her statement about impeaching Bush. Didn't realize she had made the same statement about Trump. My bad.

Still, however, Trump isn't leaving office before 2020, at the earliest.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
23. yes, impeachment was taken off the table as soon as Democrats retook the House in 2006
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:37 AM
Mar 2018

I was very upset at the time. Even if you don't intend to impeach, you can still use the threat of impeachment to negotiate concessions in legislation.

I think this time, Pelosi & Hoyer (I think) have both said that Democrats should not run on a platform of just impeaching Trump.

That said, if Democrats do win back the House and start holding real hearings with tough questions for Team Trump, you'll see the base and Democrats demanding impeachment hearings start. And, if Don Jr, Eric or Jared really embarrass themselves or they have recordings of Trump coordinating with the Russians, you might even see Republicans joining in with them.


MichMary

(1,714 posts)
26. Can you think of anything
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:44 AM
Mar 2018

that would GOT(R)V more than a threat of impeaching Trump? Every fanatical redneck in the country would crawl over broken glass to protect their 'hero.' There are plenty of districts that we will win because the base is not happy about a lot of stuff--including failure to repeal the ACA, funding of PP, etc., etc., etc. They will probably stay home in November. We would lose those Seats if the extreme RW is highly motivated.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
11. You Wait for the Special Prosecutor to Issue a Report
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:26 AM
Mar 2018

then you analyze the allegations and supporting evidence. Then you make a decision on impeachment

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
12. Remember impeachment is no guarantee that the
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:26 AM
Mar 2018

majority needed in the Senate will affirm the proceedings. It will take sometime and a lot rides on Mueller's investigation. I think it will still be going on through Nov.

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
19. when she said 'no impeachment' for Bush 43 it really pissed me off
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:33 AM
Mar 2018

which I believe led eventually, if not directly, to Trump

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
24. Promising impeachment
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:38 AM
Mar 2018

against Bush would probably have brought out a lot of R voters who stayed home in 2006, would probably have persuaded a lot of moderates to vote R, and could have lost us a lot of the House seats we won that year. I won't second guess her about that. She's a smart woman, and a great politician. She knew what she was doing.

romana

(765 posts)
25. The problem with impeachment
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:41 AM
Mar 2018

The problem with impeachment now is that the GOP made it an utterly partisan process when they impeached Bill Clinton. IMO, for it to have any credibility it HAS to come from the party of the politician in question. If it comes from the opposition, it will never be taken seriously.

The GOP has shown no inclination to be a co-equal branch of government with Trump, and while I want him gone as much as anyone, I don't believe impeachment is an option if there is no support for it among the GOP members of congress.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
27. Our only hope is that the extent of the TREASON is revealed, and the people
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:45 AM
Mar 2018

(yes, our moron general public) thinks it important enough to save western democratic civilization.

Response to Equinox Moon (Original post)

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
30. Im looking forward to her
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:09 AM
Mar 2018

controlling the purse string. No money for anything trump wants. It will kill him.

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