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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:02 AM Mar 2018

Would it be wrong to say that the enthusiastic support of union labor was a key

to Lamb's victory? Will other Democrats recognize that these folks SHOULD be Democratic voters, historically WERE and COULD BE again?

I do not see a successful Democratic Party that does not consistently and aggressively advocate for labor unions, associations and any other emerging combine of working Americans.

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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. unions are one segment, democrats have to advocate for the american worker and their family
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:14 AM
Mar 2018

hammer home the intent of the taxcut, tariffs, and all the economic issues we face eveyday by the other 99%, not just the 1%.....

unions did help lamb win for sure but lots of union voters still voted for the other guy inspite of his anti-union positions. We have to find the answer to prevent this. We have lots of racists and bigots among democrats, union workers, etc and we need to find a way to convince them that race should not be a divisive issue in america as its been made out to be. Live and let live needs to be the democratic message

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. I hope so but it was too close for comfort.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:21 AM
Mar 2018

But the size of Saccone's totals are disturbing. I am dismayed that there are still 100,000 district voters who would vote for trump's "agenda."

In part, I "blame" the media for magnifying trump's two appearances here. He had good-sized crowds and it was all over the TV. Those three (out of four) voters in that slanted MSNBC panel all said they wanted to advance trump's "agenda." How can so many still be so ignorant!!

BumRushDaShow

(129,084 posts)
4. That district is gerrymandered and will go away
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:24 AM
Mar 2018

There is a primary in May for the new districts on that side of the state.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
5. Yes, I'm in the 18th.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:25 AM
Mar 2018

We will become the new 14th and lose Lamb. We could end up with Saccone as he has indicated he could run again.

BumRushDaShow

(129,084 posts)
7. I am in the 2nd that will become the new 3rd
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:34 AM
Mar 2018

From what I gather, he would have to move to run in that district.

In any case, hopefully a good candidate can be found....!!!!

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,356 posts)
3. There's a wide variety of diverse issues in the labor movement, and some of the craft unions
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:22 AM
Mar 2018

are quite conservative. A lot of those white male union members who voted for Lamb also voted for Trump because they wouldn't vote for a woman, so.

still_one

(92,217 posts)
8. One thing in PA is clear, Lamb did NOT run as a Democratic socialist, or progressive, he ran as a
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:42 AM
Mar 2018

moderate Democrat.

Except for certain core issues there is not one size fits all. Different areas will have different views, and that needs to be appreciated. Howard Dean understood it with his 50 state strategy.

While the OPs view regarding the historical association between labor and the Democrats is true, it also needs to be noted that the so-called "Reagan Democrats" were from labor, and by helping elect Reagan, that was the beginning of the methodical dismantling of Unions by the republican party.

So while it might be convenient to say that Democrats were not as supportive of labor as they should have been, it is a complete distortion to paint Democrats as anti-Labor. From workers rights, minimum wage, safety in the work place.

It was President Obama who put forward the American Jobs Act, and it was the republicans in congress who tried to block its implementation. GM and the American auto industry is viable today because of Democrats, not republicans.

It was Al Gore that wanted to protect the 40 hour workweek, overtime requirements, the Davis-Bacon act, and the Service Contract Act, and proposed government rules to insure that taxpayer dollars to not go to companies that break basic labor laws. He campaigned on whistle-blower protections, and proposed legislation to ban permanent striker replacement works, and stiffen penalties for employer interference wit the right to organize.

There are a lot more examples on the differences between republicans and Democrats in regard to workers rights, and it is a gross distortion to paint a false equivalency between the two parties.


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