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Conor Lamb on MSNBC now. (Original Post) highplainsdem Mar 2018 OP
Says they won because of good old-fashioned hard work, not taking a single vote for granted highplainsdem Mar 2018 #1
Thanks for heads-up! BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #2
Geist trying to get Lamb to criticize Pelosi. Lamb just saying he thinks both parties highplainsdem Mar 2018 #3
Yup and fortunately he is a lawyer BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #5
FYI for those like me with no cable you can stream msnbc audio on their site: mucifer Mar 2018 #4
This video stream is always up Exotica Mar 2018 #6
Listening to him now, I can see how he got the votes. madaboutharry Mar 2018 #7
Never discount the impact of the individual candidates and their personalities bullimiami Mar 2018 #8
He is sortof like Beau Biden BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #10
And it depends on the district. CakeGrrl Mar 2018 #11
He's a candidate who fits the district. Hortensis Mar 2018 #12
That's what all the talking heads on CNN were saying last night..... a kennedy Mar 2018 #15
:) Yes, it's a new groupthink mantra, but for once Hortensis Mar 2018 #21
He is 33, and I am told by people who know him well that he is "brilliant" PA Democrat Mar 2018 #9
What will he do in Nov when his district goes away? wasupaloopa Mar 2018 #13
It will depend on where he lives with respect to which district he will run in. BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #14
He lives in the new 17th DeminPennswoods Mar 2018 #18
Thanks for the confirmation! BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #19
He has not declared as of yet. PA Democrat Mar 2018 #16
I think they have until March 27th to get their petitions in to run for the May primary. BumRushDaShow Mar 2018 #20
Are Republicans still planning on impeaching Democrats on the state supreme court? NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #17

highplainsdem

(49,001 posts)
3. Geist trying to get Lamb to criticize Pelosi. Lamb just saying he thinks both parties
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:00 AM
Mar 2018

need new leadership in the House.

BumRushDaShow

(129,087 posts)
5. Yup and fortunately he is a lawyer
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:03 AM
Mar 2018

and knows how they operate in trying to trick you into saying something.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
7. Listening to him now, I can see how he got the votes.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:05 AM
Mar 2018

He is soft spoken, low key, and has a Mayberry RFD Aww Shucks personality. I think his demeanor and his centrist politics are the reason he won. It should be a lesson to democrats of the need to broaden the spectrum of candidates that the party runs. A different kind of democrat, a left leaning democrat, would have lost this race.

BumRushDaShow

(129,087 posts)
10. He is sortof like Beau Biden
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:12 AM
Mar 2018

with similar background - parents were politicos and Catholics, both served in military, both were lawyers. Beau was a bit older but still...

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
11. And it depends on the district.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:16 AM
Mar 2018

When a candidate is in deep-red, double-digit Trump territory, the reality is they'll need to move some of those voters away from their normal voting pattern.

The candidate has to move them in increments.

That's why Lamb campaigns with Joe Biden, but not Barack Obama. YET.

Some of those Trump voters can cross over to folksy, of-their-generation (and yes, WHITE) Joe Biden, but are not yet ready to relinquish their programmed resentment/fear/racial hatred of Joe's former boss.

But it takes the ability to recognize the reality of where the candidate is trying to run to adopt the correct strategy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. He's a candidate who fits the district.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:22 AM
Mar 2018

I've always been a strong liberal, left of a good 80% of the country on most issues. But I'm committed to democratic government, and that requires accepting that representatives must represent their constituents as best they can manage in a complex world. Or it's not democracy.

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
15. That's what all the talking heads on CNN were saying last night.....
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:33 AM
Mar 2018

candidates HAVE to fit their districts......and they'll be different all over the country. Dah....... makes sense, so why is it so hard to get the right candidates??

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. :) Yes, it's a new groupthink mantra, but for once
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 09:01 AM
Mar 2018

a sensible one worth repeating. A lot. The media usually dramatize divisions instead of how to achieve the unity democracy must have, and they'll be right back at it.

Democratic districts don't have it "so hard" to get good candidates, though of course one doesn't always step up. The problem is that too many people like to assume they have bad candidates. Facile cynicism makes them feel smart without having to put themselves out by actually, you know, reading a bio or checking a voting record.

Republican districts of course a lot trickier to field a good Democrat. He or she has to be a good enough leader to both respect diverse political views and be able to convince a majority that somewhat left is good governance on at least some issues. Not a job for just anyone.


PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
9. He is 33, and I am told by people who know him well that he is "brilliant"
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:10 AM
Mar 2018

Having met him, he has that "it" factor. He comes across as amazingly poised, empathetic, very knowledgeable on the issues, but willing to listen. Both my husband and I were left with the impression that he has a great future in politics.

BumRushDaShow

(129,087 posts)
14. It will depend on where he lives with respect to which district he will run in.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:33 AM
Mar 2018


Looks like the new district will be PA-14 if this map holds. He will have to file and run in it for the May primary.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
16. He has not declared as of yet.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:52 AM
Mar 2018

He currently lives in what will be the new District PA-17. Rep. Keith Rothfus (R) lives in that district (currently PA-12).

Additionally, Saccone lives in what will become PA-18. Rep. Mike Doyle (D) lives in what will be PA-18. There is speculation that Saccone may run in the new PA-14 even though he does live there.

I have not heard anyone definitively declaring their intentions for the 2018 midterms. I think many people were waiting to see the outcome of the special election, plus the Republicans are still holding out hope to overturn the redistricting map at the Supreme Court level.

You also have to wonder if the Republican party and the right wing PACs would be willing to sink millions again in a campaign for Rick Saccone.

Link to new PA map here:


https://upload.democraticunderground.com/107410404

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. Are Republicans still planning on impeaching Democrats on the state supreme court?
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 08:56 AM
Mar 2018

Otherwise, I think Lamb will run in one new district that should be more balanced, while Saccone (possibly) would run in another. I think one is 14 and the other is 17, but not sure which is which.

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