Westmoreland now reported at 99%. It will be hard for Saccone to win.

[Demovictory9]

[Maven]

1. What about Washington?

Still stuck at 90%.

I have this sick feeling that Repukes will use that last 10% to miraculously take the lead. With no paper trail.

[Demovictory9]

3. yes. but smaller numbers. Well... we will know soon

[Demovictory9]

4. that 3% remaining from Allgheny should offset that 10% from Washington. crossing fingers.

[NewJeffCT]

11. Yes, if the numbers hold

Washington is for Sack by a smaller margin than Allegheny is for Lamb

[Evergreen Emerald]

5. You and I are wearing the same tinfoil hat

I keep wondering why everyone is so excited. The votes are rigged. (I hope I am wrong).

[rpannier]

19. Washington is 7% left. Allegheny 1%

[rpannier]

39. Washington is at 100% and has been for over an hour

https://edition.cnn.com/election/2018/pennsylvania-house-special-election

[elleng]

2. Mebbe

Lamb up by 918 votes now, and 3000 votes remaining in Allegheny.

[Motownman78]

9. 3800 votes in washington left

I say lamb gets 1700 and Saccone gets 2100. Will not be enough.

[budkin]

6. Cautiously optimistic

[blue-wave]

7. I agree

If my math is right and the current trends continue, we have new Democratic Congessman

[mucifer]

10. drop in the bucket but it's a start if it happens that is.

[Orange Free State]

8. I believe in Pa. there is a recount if the results are within 0.5%

But don’t quote me.

[Bradshaw3]

13. CNN just said no automatic recount in PA congressinal races

[Orange Free State]

14. Yep.I looked it up, that only applies in statewide races n/t

[Bradshaw3]

17. Kornacki just reported otherwise

I'll take John King over him. Do you have a link?

[Orange Free State]

25. Sure. Here goes, Ballotpedis

https://ballotpedia.org/Recount_laws_in_Pennsylvania

About halfway down the page. Apparently if there are three electors who allege fraud or miscount they can file for recount, but it’s not automatic. Look for Saccone to file for a recount if he loses, anything to try to delay seating Lamb.

[Salviati]

12. Honestly, I'd feel better about all this if the state government didn't report any of the results...

... until they were all in.

Makes it harder for some "missing" votes that magically happen to be just enough for the republican to take the lead to be "found"

[IronLionZion]

15. It will be hard for the liberals who claim there's no point competing in Trump districts

to not be punched in the face

[Bradshaw3]

18. Agree. Compete in every race and see what happens

You never know in a wave election. Lot of Obama-trump voters went for Lamb tonight.

[radius777]

20. Perhaps, but Lamb is an exceptionally good candidate

as he's charismatic and resonates w/the voters in his area...

it's not always easy to find such candidates, thus pouring money into a suicide mission doesn't make sense...

all factors have to come together for it to make sense.

[IronLionZion]

21. Local elections are where we build our bench of exceptionally good candidates

and they would know their local issues and voters and build up a constituency and record to run for higher office. We need that bench of exceptional candidates to draw from when an opportunity like an open seat comes up during a blue wave year.


Republicans run complete shitheads and manage to win a few too many times with little opposition.

[DeminPennswoods]

22. I'll bet Keith Rothfus is worried right now

as Lamb's home will now be part of the new 17th, I think, CD.

[radius777]

24. Surely, as per Nate Silver, both Sack and Lamb

could easily wind up in Congress after all, Sack in the 14th and Lamb in the 17th.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-pennsylvania-18th-special-election/

(scroll to the bottom of the page to the 'aftermath' section)

[rpannier]

45. Are you saying liberals are opposed to running in every district?

Because if you are, I never realized Rahm Emmanuel and his ilk were liberals

It all began with Dean's much-ballyhooed (and much criticized) "50 State Strategy", an effort to put staff and resources into every state in hopes of bolstering the party's grassroots in every corner of the country. Establishment Democrats, led by Emanuel, were openly skeptical of a strategy that took critical resources and spent them in Republican strongholds like Idaho or Nebraska -- particularly as the party was battling to retake the majorities in the House and Senate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/02/25/the-long-and-amazing-feud-between-rahm-emanuel-and-howard-dean/?utm_term=.3b1f50b01571

[IronLionZion]

48. Dean and Obama expanded our map considerably

winning in areas of America that our party had written off as unwinnable.

Some Dems want to shrink the map for our party.

[rpannier]

49. That I totally agree with you on that

But the above poster laid that blame at the feet of liberals, yet it was many establishment moderates who opposed the 50 state strategy, like Rahm

[IronLionZion]

50. Conor Lamb wouldn't do well in Brooklyn or San Francisco or other bubbles

but he's exactly the type of Dem we need in rust belt Appalachian areas like Western PA and enough voters agreed.

[rpannier]

51. And I don't disagree with you

I supported the 50 state strategy
But, it was Emmanuel and Begalia that did not and they are moderates

[keithbvadu2]

16. Don't worry. GOP will have cameras to catch all the buses bringing millions of illegals to vote.

Don't worry. GOP will have cameras to catch all the buses bringing millions of illegals to vote.

[elocs]

23. I would bet there were voters on the Left who stayed home.

They saw polls showing Lamb would win so they just didn't bother to vote.
That sort of behavior is a plague on the Democratic Party but one that's celebrated by Republicans who tend to view voting as their duty and not just something to do if they are excited or motivated.

[rpannier]

42. Be nice if you could provide documentation to support another Bash the Left post

Let me try this, 'Conservatives came out in greater numbers than expected to try and save Suck-cone.'

I honestly will never understand the bashing of the left from Democrats. And y'all wonder why they don't listen to you

[ashredux]

26. I bet a 150 vote Lamb win

[vkkv]

27. What a BULLSHIT post ! Where is the documentation EXPLAIN PLEASE !!

These are the kinds of worthless posts that DU does not need.

,,, dude.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. That was kind of rude...

[vkkv]

30. And deserved, such an unsubstantiated post. Seriously - I WANT Lamb to win, but come on..

The (enter name) who posted the OP is just rolling the dice unless they produce some documentation, right?

Since when does DU give prominence to BS gamblers who offer no facts?

Does he/she live there? Do they know something we do not? If so, prove it.

In the words of Betsy DeVos, 'it's waste of fucking time'.

This is the kind of crap we need much, much less of on DU.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. Then hide the post instead of slagging the OP.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

36. Get a grip. It's an internet message board.

[vkkv]

38. Ah, so DU is just an internet message board.. I see. So, you really aren't seeking

credibility with that statement now are you..

'Sad' ... and I thought there was honor to be found here. My mistake.

[RhodeIslandOne]

40. What the hell is wrong with you?

The OP was made three hours ago. Aren’t you aware that there are other projections in the media by now citing it would be tough for Saccone to overcome his current deficit?

Instead of focusing on an old post like a raving lunatic, why don’t you click on some other threads or better yet go to msnbc or cnn?

[George II]

31. Yep, totally uncalled for.

[SergeStorms]

29. There are enough oustanding absentee ballots.....

in the two remaining red districts for the GOP to steal it. It won't be easy for them, but never count out a Republican who knows how to cheat.

This election won't be official until tomorrow. Go to bed people. Everything after this is needless hand wringing tonight.

[Tiggeroshii]

33. I mean if republicans just voted like republicans it looksmlike

There is enough votes for them to legitimately win by .02%in a district that regularly voted republican by 25%. Nice "win" on their part, dozens of trump visits and 200 million dollars in...

[flibbitygiblets]

34. Even if the Sac wins, there's another (un-gerrymandered) election in Nov, correct?

This is pretty huge that it's even this close. Yes, if Dems lose this one, the R's and tRump especially will crow and strut like cock of the walk, but by now most people realize it's empty bluster. The Blue Wave is coming, assholes.

[Tiggeroshii]

46. A lot can happen between now and then, but the writing is on the walls

[rpannier]

41. Happy?

Can Rick Saccone still win? It's "mathematically possible but unlikely"
CNN's John King has analyzed the numbers and thinks that while it's possible Republican Rick Saccone could still pull it off in Pennsylvania, he wouldn't bet on it.

"Mathematically possible but unlikely," King told CNN's Don Lemon. Then he broke it down and found that even if Rick Saccone got 70% of the remaining ballots and absentee ballots -- which is unlikely -- he'd still come up short by just a handful of votes.

"Mathematically possible, yes," he added. "Would that count have to defy everything that's happened at the ballot box today by a significant margin? Yes. Mathematically possible at 70%, though, even if Rick Saccone wins, 7 of 10 of those remaining absentee ballots, he will fall short."

per CNN

[vkkv]

43. Yes, and I 'hunched" my exam answers all the way through middle-school !!

And look, I won !!

Cheers.. to me ????

Is that how this works here at DU now ?

Used to be different.. Posters used to present facts and info to back up their posts.. no more I guess.

yay !!

[ecstatic]

47. Try to relax and calm down

We're all nervous and tense right now. Maybe call it a night?