What the actual F**k?

[rzemanfl]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-investigating-notary-over-failure-to-sign-stormy-daniels-nondisclosure-agreement-report/ar-BBK8KY2?ocid=spartandhp

Texas notaries are required to sign and date agreements, as well as provide a certificate verifying those who sign documents.
However, notary Erica Jackson is now facing an investigation after she failed to do all three for the 2016 nondisclosure agreement regarding Daniels's alleged affair with President Trump. Jackson's stamp is on the document.

This makes no sense whatsoever.

[janx]

1. The only thing I can think of is name problem.

As I understand it, Stormy's real name was not used on the document. A notary may have asked for ID and refused to sign it.

Or maybe Stormy simply didn't get it notarized at all.

[rzemanfl]

3. I was a notary most of my adult life in two different states.

The seal or stamp goes on LAST-ALWAYS.

[Arkansas Granny]

10. Right. You sign and date and then affix your seal.

There's something fishy here.

[rzemanfl]

12. Very. n/t

[janx]

16. So did somebody just stamp the thing

without signing it and providing record of it?

[Iliyah]

17. Daniels would have to show a valid picture ID

where in the notary booklet the notary would write down the ID number.

Same for California with the stamping of the seal, the signatures would have to be in placed on the legal document.

I' surprised about how this was conducted.

[TheSmarterDog]

28. My understanding of the problem is that Trump didn't sign it, but Daniels did.

[Freethinker65]

2. Hahaha. Trump only hires the best of the best

No detail in business dealings is too small for Trump to weasel his way out of...until...

[brush]

38. 10k under the table to the notary and...voila!

Done.

[greatauntoftriplets]

4. Nothing much makes sense anymore.

[rzemanfl]

6. Hey GAT. How are you?

This is funny. Year ago a nursing home resident walked off with my notary seal when I wasn't looking. Several years later the person died and it turned up in their effects.

[greatauntoftriplets]

13. Hi, rz!

I'm hanging in there. About to get new bathroom floors (two bathrooms) as soon as the stuff is delivered and the contractor is available. Maybe that person had been a notary earlier in life? Were you able to get a new seal?

Hope you're doing okay.

[rzemanfl]

15. I am fine. Yes, I got a new seal and wound up with a pair eventually.

New floors, how nice.

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. Happy to hear that the person didn't put you out of business.

The floors will be much nicer than the filthy carpeting that's in the bathrooms now. Disgusting. But it was there when I bought this place.

[rzemanfl]

19. The person probably did not know their own name most days, much less mine

upside down and backwards.

[greatauntoftriplets]

25. I figured.

Be warned that I can read type upside down and backwards. One of the hats I wore when I was a young'n was newspaper makeup editor. That was something you learned to do quickly.

[GP6971]

26. My grandfather taught me that

he immigrated from the Netherlands and was a typesetter...it's how he learned English. Could print it and read it fine, just not good at the speaking aspect of it.

[greatauntoftriplets]

32. And now that everything is done on computers, it's a dying talent.

But it comes in handy now and then.

[rzemanfl]

36. My father was the opposite. He was forbidden to speak Czech by his parents.

He understood it but in the Army in World War II he could only translate what he heard in Czech to English. He couldn't speak it back.

[GP6971]

37. My mother's

brother and sister spoke some Dutch, but my grandfather forbid my mother (the youngest) from speaking it. It had to be English. He was a hard ass in many ways. But my mother learned the good words...I always knew she was mad at me growing up as a kid when she started speaking and yelling in Dutch!

Always loved the smell of going into his print shop...as GAT said, it's a lost profession.

[rzemanfl]

30. Thanks. n/t

[Arkansas Granny]

5. I can't imagine why a Notary would put his/her stamp on a document without signing the document.

That makes no sense at all.

[yardwork]

7. I can think of how that could happen....

[rzemanfl]

11. But you aren't going to tell us? n/t

[yardwork]

14. Sorry! I thought it was obvious. Somebody could have stolen the stamp.

[rzemanfl]

20. There was a lot of that going on during the mortgage free for all days under Dubyah.

Fake documents, the works.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

40. We used to get stuff (mortgage docs) signed all the time and notarized later with a copy of an ID.

Yeah, it was breaking the rules. We were on our honor not to do anything stupid.

I suspect the attorney had the stamp and forgot to have it signed.

Technically illegal, and IMO, stupid for something that could end up being contested and scrutinized in court.

In my case it was mostly friends and relatives and customers I had a good relationship with. They appreciated being able to close a loan at their own kitchen table.

[rzemanfl]

8. Exactly. If there was no certificate there was no reason for the seal and there is no way to

provide ID for a pseudonym.

[FakeNoose]

9. Somebody used her stamp to "notarize" it unofficially

Either that, or she took some money under the table.

Just sayin'

[MerryBlooms]

21. I'm going with money under the table.

This administration came in a filthy lot and they'll go out as the most notorious crooks in our history. The top tier of republicans are all in on it and are also filthy in money laundering and up the ass shenanigans.

[Sancho]

22. hmmm....

We have a contract which was improperly notarized in Texas signed by fictitious people from Florida and an LLC from Delaware authored by a NY lawyer who unethically took out a mortgage loan to violate election laws and non-disclose an torrid affair with a porn star while the undocumented immigrant wife was having an anchor baby and the agreement states that pictures, videos, and paternity are off-limits.

Any questions?

[rzemanfl]

29. Excellent synopsis. n/t

[Takket]

33. is the swamp drained now?

[HopeAgain]

23. Notarization not necessary to make a contract binding.

Unless required by a specific provision of law. Probably not required here as long as executed by the individuals with an intention to be binding. Most States even allow the pseudonyms as long as the contracting parties can be identified.

The notary, however, can lose their appointment if they don't follow the law when notarizing.

[Hoyt]

24. And Ms. Daniels attorney seems to think its valid enough to offer payment back before

spilling the sordid details.

[Shrike47]

27. Some notaries I have knowledge of notarize before the doc is signed (illegally)

I was a law clerk for a Circuit Court at one time. We got the occasional unsigned, notarized affidavit from law offices as part of a motion/proposed order/supporting documents package. The notary/paralegal would notarize and stick it on the attorney’s desk for signature. The attorney would sign the motion but miss the affidavit.

Our practice was to call the attorney and tell them to bring in a signed affidavit ASAP. The judges would gently admonish the attorney and that was the end of it.

I later worked in an office where we issued hundreds of subpoenas, motions, etc. every month. Things got missed.

Or, as is more likely, there is something hinky going on here.

[rzemanfl]

31. I worked for a guy who used to say "Every secretary in this office can sign my name

just as well as I can."

[gratuitous]

34. Okay, so I went and looked at the documents

There's no spaces for a notary seal, none of the standard notary language (e.g., "Subscribed and sworn to before me," etc.) and no sworn statement bracket. Erica Jackson's notary stamp simply appears below the place where "PP" (interesting choice of initials, no?) signed and to the right of the blank space where "DD" was supposed to have signed.

I don't know the notary rules in Texas, but in Oregon, we have to maintain a Journal of Notarial Acts, detailing the who, what, where, and when of every signature we notarize. I don't do it for attorneys in my office for every routine affidavit, but any deed, affidavit, agreement, will, or what have you that I notarize for a client or other party, you damn betcha I get their signature in my book, along with recording whatever ID they had to convince me they were who they said.

Erica Jackson may be an extremely sloppy notary; it happens. But from the looks of the agreement, it looks like someone just helped themselves to her seal. Look at it for yourself:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/06/read-stormy-daniels-lawsuit-against-donald-trump/401930002/

[rzemanfl]

35. Thank you. Why would a Texas notary put their stamp on a line

bearing the signature of an officer of a Delaware Corporation created by a New York lawyer? I agree it looks like someone
"helped themselves" to her stamp. It serves no purpose other than to get her in trouble that I can see. There is no jurat. Inexplicable.

[gratuitous]

39. I presume someone was signing in Texas

Notaries lose their powers when they cross a state line. As a notary in Oregon, I can't travel to Washington to notarize a document. But if someone is passing through the Portland airport (for example) and needs their signature on a document notarized, I could do it for them, no matter where they're from, going to, or where the document is supposed to be effective. With proper identification, of course. I would surmise that someone (maybe PP?) was in Texas when she or he signed.

[rzemanfl]

41. Agreed, but if someone took her seal they wouldn't necessarily follow the other rules-

when they used it. This is like everything else in Trumpist Dumbfuckistan, we tie ourselves into knots trying to explain or understand stuff that is patently absurd.

In a sane country there would never be a President/Porn Star f**king non-disclosure agreement to discuss.