Has Trump explained HOW he will bring back the steel industry?

[jmowreader]

Many of the closed steel mills he needs to fulfill his dream of "bringing back steel" are not just closed - they have been eradicated. And it's not like Republican-favorite "struggling small businesses" are going to suddenly pop up to start making steel.

Without steel mills to make additional steel there will be no additional steel made...so what's his plan? Does he have one, or is he going to wriggle his nose, say "The American steel industry is back!" three times fast, and suddenly have roll after roll of steel emerge from Pennsylvania's lush hills?

[forgotmylogin]

1. MAGA magic.

He's going to squint real hard and then yell at his subordinates to do something.

[jmowreader]

2. Gotcha.

When der Fuehrer yells I got to have more shells
We heil (pfft) heil (pfft) for him we make more shells
If one little shell would blow him right to hell
We heil (pfft) heil (pfft) and wouldn't that be swell?

So...there is no plan.

[HipChick]

3. He's just going to keep running his mouth..

and hope no one notices he can't deliver..

[njhoneybadger]

4. Same way he brought back the coal industry

[Blue_true]

7. What large power plant or industrial operator.

In it's right mind would use coal over natural gas if both work the same for the application? Maybe if the power plant or industrial plant got millions per year in subsidies to offset higher maintenance, part replacement and waste disposal costs associated with coal. I saw a special on the invention of Play Doo. Turns out the material that is in Play Doo was sold as a wall cleaning material in homes when most homes burned coal for heating the home. But when fuel oil and natural gas came along, households abandoned coal in droves, bringing the company that made the wall cleaning company nearly bankrupt. One of the sons of the owner got an idea, he dyed some of the cleaning product several colors and gave it to the teacher at his kid's school. The kids loved the stuff, Play Doo was born. The point is that if it is inefficient to use coal, companies won't use it unless there is some benefit.

[Takket]

5. no businessperson in their right mind will invest in new mills either

people who know business aren't stupid. They aren't sinking millions to open a new mill based on a flimsy tariff that they know is going away in 2021 at the latest and is likely to hurt companies that use steel, thus crushing the demand for steel.

The tariff is a dead end street. It will create a handful of new steel jobs and cost far more jobs in other industries.

[Blue_true]

8. Bush learned that in the early 2000s.

He imposed tariffs, cost jobs, he rescinded the tariffs.
In a global economy, if you need 150,000 screws, you have the world to buy them from. If screws in country X cost 45% less than screws in the USA for the same quality and they can be shipped overnight and your shipping cost is 10%, you buy the screws from Country X and even after the 25% tariff, you are 10% ahead and have not lost time.

The best thing that Trump or any President should do is look at industries where we are strong and look ahead to developing industries. It is possible to keep strategic metals mills alive for defense purposes, but those operations will by nature by small scale.

[Blue_true]

6. He will wiggle his nose.

The man is a world class bullshitter.

[PA Democrat]

9. The Pittsburgh Technology Center stands on the site where the blast furnaces of the

Jones and Laughlin Steel Mill once operated. When I was a child I remember rounding the bend of the Parkway East approaching Pittsburgh to see the smoke billowing out of the smokestacks. The mill was closed in the late 1970s, the mills were torn down and a technology park was built. The city has survived by transforming its economy from one of heavy industry, to R&D and healthcare.

The City of McKeesport, once a booming steel town has not weathered the closing of its steel mills as well. The mills have been razed, but no new businesses have replaced even a fraction of the economic activity the city lost.

So even if some corporate or private entity made the investment in new steel mills, they would be highly automated and employ a fraction of the workers that the steel industry once did.

[OhioBlue]

10. While I agree with you that most of the steel mills have been eradicated and he has no real plan,

This has been filling water cooler conversations at work and has been shared by FB friends:

http://www.chroniclet.com/Local-News/2018/03/09/Republic-Steel-prepared-to-open-in-Lorain.html

The Chronicle headline is more honest than most local media by saying "Republic Steel PREPARED to open..." Most local media just state "Republic Steel will re-open Lorain plant because of Trump Tariffs and employ 1000 workers".

This is now embedded in every Trump supporter in NE Ohio. They see this as a "see, we told you Trump would create jobs". The jobs may never materialize and if they do, the tariffs may have a much larger job loss effect than the jobs created by Republic Steel or other such companies, but the Trump supporters will not notice either way. Just like the headlines over the factory jobs in Indiana. They got the headline and touted it over and over, reinforced the idea in Trump supporters minds that he is creating jobs and no truth will undo the impression that they have that he created or saved jobs. If Republic Steel never reopens that plant, it will be spun as the fault of Dems.

Just like the workers that got a bonus and then downsized after the Trump tax scam... reality doesn't get through to them... The headline and reinforcement of their preconceived notions is what stays.

[Wellstone ruled]

11. Remember the huge Tubing mill

in Pueblo Colorado,part of it still stands today,just waiting to fall in on it's self. Understand most of the Equipment was salvaged or scraped. Same for the Massive Mill in the South End of the Salt Lake Valley, now replace with Hundreds of Homes and Shopping Center.

GOP=1950 Make America White Again.

[ProudLib72]

12. The corollary is, who is going to take those jobs?

Maybe I'm being naive. Maybe trumpanzees are just that stupid. There is no security at all. In fact, you can be guaranteed to be out of a job within a few years. But of course, such was the case with coal, and they lined up around the block to go back to the mines.

[dalton99a]

13. Millions have been waiting for this opportunity

[ProudLib72]

14. I remember reading an article someone posted last year about the coal miners

They were offered free government assisted retraining. They refused because tRump was bringing back coal. Some have no doubt begun to surmise the bullshittery that took place, so The Don is looking for new victims... ah, I mean "supporters".

[ornotna]

15. Or explain about the jobs that will be lost

http://www.prosalesmagazine.com/products/lumber/steel-tariffs-threaten-michigan-based-maker-of-sawmill-blades_c

The Trump administration's plan to levy 25% tariffs on imported steel could end up affecting sawmills as well, NPR reports. That's because the Simonds International factory in Big Rapids, Mich., that makes saw blades for timber mills says only four plants worldwide make the steel needed for those blades. Two are in Europe and two are in China.

This would just be the beginning. Who knows how many more jobs would be lost.