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the nanny...
Link to tweet
Much more also at politico piece..
https://www.politico.com/story/2009/07/blackwater-behind-the-brass-025140
But there ends the princely tale. By 2003, when his wife, Joan, was dying of cancer, Prince couldnt hide his affair with the familys former nanny, Joanna Houck. She had moved from Michigan to work for Blackwater, at its Moyock, N.C., facilities and wound up pregnant with Princes child before Joans death. At some point, Joan found out and, according to one person close to her, insisted that that woman be kept away from her children, Simons reports. Even so, Houck showed up at her funeral already pregnant and married Prince a year later.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)disgusting
Iggo
(47,564 posts)Yeesh.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Grammy23
(5,810 posts)One of the biggest disappointments of my political life was his behavior while Elizabeth was dying. I had seen her at a rally in Pensacola when she was still campaigning for him. I thought so highly of her. I Stood on the tarmac at the local airport to see him appear the night before the election in 2004. Cheered for him and even shook his hand. When the story came out of his affair and the child that resulted from that affair, I was stunned and disappointed to the point of complete disgust.
So if Prince thinks that he will make himself look better by trying to explain how he got tangled up in an affair while his wife lay dying, he might want to rethink that strategy.
BigmanPigman
(51,625 posts)Great morals and priorities these asses have, huh.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)Thats because I dont recall John Edwards identifying heavily as Christian or being associated with the Family Research Council. Placement in the circles of hell is important. Ask Dante.
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,869 posts)They divorced- but not a year later. Several years later - they have 3 children.
I think he's a manipulative sociopath and his second wife got out while the getting out is good.
Now his THIRD wife is a piece of work. She and her husband used to both work for him - Erik and Katherine Stacy Deluke Capace Prince (Stacy Deluke) had divorces right around the same time.
She was the idiot who posted pics of herself at Trump Tower on election night.
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)Edwards was a rising star and admired by many until his lack of character was revealed. He had a hard fall and the only mention of his name in Democratic circles is for derision and disappointment. Same with Elliot Spitzer, though not to the same extent.
Prince, Gingrich, Trump, McCain, Vitter, and on and on... have similar histories and yet to their base, it matters not. Unfortunately, Prince won't suffer any real consequences for his lack of character. In Republican/Conservative circles that is not a bug, it is a feature.
Upthevibe
(8,068 posts)in a sex scandal..?
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Was injured is a serious auto accident. He divorced her.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)What a guy!
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)and no real solid job prospects for him then.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)After dealing with cancer, Rudy m. wife no. 3 in 2003.
Then there's Arnold.
Who was the more recent Repub. in the West, married with children that proposed impregnating a staffer. For more kids? I forget.
*Erik Prince using the passive, 'She became pregnant...' Ya don't say, how so?
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)The guy from the South who was anti-abortion but was caught trying to force his mistress to get an abortion. All of these Republican asshats and their followers who look the other way.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)Hard core GOP followers are mostly impervious now, armed & blinded by their conservative twisted hypocrisy, bigotry & greed, but blunt reminders couldn't hurt. They're always espousing moral superiority, Christian family values & righteousness after all.
FM123
(10,054 posts)I'll never forget that passage in Elizabeth's book that said "she stood in the storm and when the wind did not blow her away (and it surely has not) she adjusted her sails"
Upthevibe
(8,068 posts)What a MAJOR disappointment he turned out to be....
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)brush
(53,837 posts)There's something missing in the thought process, just as it was in his "back channel" story of just happening to be on an island in the middle of the Indian Ocean and had a chance encounter with Russians.
Not a good guyBlackwater mercs and killings of Iraqis and all then changing the name to Xe to hide that.
It's been changed at least once more as well.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Still doing the same shit tho.
Plus Prince still has the ingredients for his own mercenary army, just waiting till someone gives him the green light. And the money.
brewens
(13,618 posts)reason they tell us we need more military spending because the military is depleted? DOD spending it totally out of control but we need more. Is that because we're giving away so many billions to those contractors to supposedly do jobs the military used to do just fine for themselves, like run mess halls and truck convoys.
It's beautiful, as they would say in Goodfellas. We train guys in the military, they lure them away with big bucks. Then they charge us enough to pay the huge salary, house and feed them if it's overseas, and turn a real nice profit. We then get to spend the bucks to recruit and train new guys.
I pissed off a kid that worked for us at the blood center a couple years back. He was just Naval reserve but was talking "going Blackwater" shit. I said those guys were crooks and he didn't like that much. I explained that I didn't have a problem with the kids wanting to get training and go for the money, but that Prince was a sleaze and was scamming us. I probbly didn't convince him.
brush
(53,837 posts)by our army, but now we have to pay Prince and his ilk millions to do it.
brewens
(13,618 posts)bad water, bad laundry washed in contaminated water, you name it. Add the problems they have had with their guys going out of control and killing civilians.
They were probably right in the middle of the disappearing billions in cash too. Missing money? I think not. Someone knows it all got to right where it was supposed to go, in the right peoples off shore accounts. Pallets of cash probably loaded on an unmarked plane and out of Iraq or Afghanistan as soon as it landed.
brush
(53,837 posts)couldn't hide all of that loot.
montanacowboy
(6,099 posts)for a long long time
and he can take his skank of a sister with him
two filthy lowlifes
Bengus81
(6,932 posts)madaboutharry
(40,218 posts)Read this shit slowly. The wind up of excuses for his behavior, blaming his sick wife and her family, and
feeling sorry for himself.
The man is a disgusting selfish pig. No wonder he fits in so well in Trump's orbit.
keithbvadu2
(36,883 posts)appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Draining the Swamp? Nah...
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)...they not only didn't drain the swamp, they've converted it to a cesspool full of human waste.
PunksMom
(440 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)DeVos's husband in this 2002 speech at the billionaire-biased Heritage Foundation discusses the GOP billionaire strategy to destroy public ed:
Like most other conservatives and libertarians, we see vouchers as a major step toward the complete privatization of schooling. In fact, after careful study, we have come to the conclusion that they are the only way to dismantle the current socialist regime."
...Because we know how the government schools perpetuate themselves, we can design a plan to dismantle them."
The plan was designed in think tanks funded by Koch, Scaife, Bradley, Olin and other mega-donors, but the execution at the state level has been the project of Dick and Betsy DeVos.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)of elimination of the US public school system. Also with much focus now on striking teachers & decline of public educ.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Feel free to completely borrow any parts of it to make it an OP. Ill k&r it
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)...slimy, decaying, nasty ooze at the bottom.
Phoenix61
(17,015 posts)I didn't realize what a sorry excuse of a human being he is. Exactly how does one find oneself in the arms of anyone? Are you magically teleported there? I feel sorry for his children.
Botany
(70,567 posts)"She became pregnant before Joan died."
I gotta go and get some brain bleach.
SunSeeker
(51,662 posts)What's with the passive voice? He knows how babies are made. He already had 4 kids. I'm sure he didn't accidentally slip it in while passing her in the hallway.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Come on you know how penises can act. They have this tricky way of secretly getting out of your pants without you knowing. They also have this way finding their ways into the vaginas of women without asking your permission. You know those penises, they have a mind of their own. So, no it did not slip into the nanny's vagina while Erik Prince was passing her in the hallway. It actually did a jailbreak/pantsbreak and had sex with the nanny all by itself.
sarge43
(28,942 posts)It's always the vagina's fault for seducing the penis. It just can't help itself. more
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Thanks for my first laugh of the day! 😂
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)At least in this instance, Erik the Prince didn't say, "She got herself pregnant." So he hasn't quite gone as low as he possibly could go. I'm also not inclined to give the nanny a pass, boinking her boss while his wife was dying of cancer: Nice.
Botany
(70,567 posts)as far as I am concerned the story below is still in "the internet rumor" phase.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142007664
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Why do these people supposedly love to be peed on so much?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Am I missing something?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)magicarpet
(14,160 posts).... until death do us part.
Unless the young nanny walks by and you get a major woody - then the marriage vows mean dirt.
Erik Prince is a Fascist Hypocrite who thinks rules are for everyone else to strictly adhere to - but he is some how exempt.
keithbvadu2
(36,883 posts)appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)What a Christian!?
SunSeeker
(51,662 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,852 posts)"she became pregnant before Joan died." It wasn't as though Archangel Gabriel announced her pregnancy.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)When I first read the OP I was shocked that Prince had cheated on his dying wife. My thought was, but wait isn't he one of the right wing evangelical Christians. After about a minute I thought of all the other right wing evangelical Christians who cheated on their wives and thought, I should not have been shocked.
spanone
(135,861 posts)phylny
(8,385 posts)"We had four little kids at home, but my business was more important to me than my family, so I left it to my wife to take care of them. When I got home, she was exhausted from her day. I cared more about myself than my family, so I didn't think to spend time with them, or to go to marriage counseling. Then, when my wife was battling and dying of cancer, I wasn't man enough to be faithful to her until the end, thus ignoring my marriage vows. My in-laws graciously came to take care of my children and my home during this time, because I was too selfish to do it, but I disrespected them, my children, and my wife by fucking the nanny. I was so disgusting, I failed to use birth control while I was fucking the nanny. Because of my carelessness, I impregnated her and had a child out of wedlock."
There, Erik, you fuckwad. Fixed it for you.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)That is exactly how it is.
Chiyo-chichi
(3,585 posts)appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)Ilsa
(61,697 posts)like she caught a cold or had an immaculate conception.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Why did you brag about it in a book? What happened to that child? You couldn't handle your wife's suffering without going to the arms of the nanny?
You people disgust me.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)Moostache
(9,897 posts)But this is simply par for the course with Trump and the people he associates with...sociopaths unable to be held accountable for anything by anyone and totally detached from reality.
Hey Erik, I hope one day you have to face the victims of your life.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Without knowing the dudes history, 'Joanna' is an unknown age woman, who at some point worked for the family in nanny capacity for X years, which was Y years prior to the affair. At time of affair, she's 'admin' at 'Moyock Facilities'. Is Moyock in Virginia or Michigan?
Everyone seems to be assuming she must be the CURRENT nanny and hence likely quite young ... not sure where you get that from?
Are you assuming that 'admin at moyock facility' secretly means 'our kids current nanny'? If so, why?
unc70
(6,117 posts)Blackwater (AKA Academi) has a training facility in the middle of nothing in eastern North Carolina near the Virginia line.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)And why does it matter where the impregnating happened? All we need to know is that he impregnated the nanny while his wife lay dying of cancer.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And that makes him a better person? It really doesnt.
Maven
(10,533 posts)It's clear he got her a job at one of his offices thus keeping her in the picture to facilitate their adulterous relationship.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)He later wrote that he had an affair with Joanna Ruth Houck, his children's nanny, while his wife was dying.[60] Prince and Houck married in 2004.[61] He is now married to Stacy DeLuke,[62] a former Blackwater spokeswoman.[63]
Prince has seven children. His youngest child, Charles Donovan Prince, was named after William "Wild Bill" Donovan.[58]
Further reading at Wikipedia
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)trusty elf
(7,399 posts)gibraltar72
(7,510 posts)in my area. Hillsdale College alum. Served as fireman while going to college here. I am waiting for more evidence to be established to write a letter to local paper. For those who don't know Hillsdale College is where inconvenient women get suicided.
enough
(13,262 posts)apnu
(8,758 posts)What a real man. Wife dying of cancer, family all around, and he's moaning about how its inconvenient to his sex life.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)strike again.
It's all about dicks with the GOP, in every way imaginable!
shanny
(6,709 posts)Clueless.
turbinetree
(24,713 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)He's still a pig.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,020 posts)NOT!
czarjak
(11,287 posts)czarjak
(11,287 posts)Thank you person that thinks Rand Paul is presidential material.
Upthevibe
(8,068 posts)He's pathetic...
whathehell
(29,083 posts)even have to leave home.
Sam McGee
(347 posts)"I found comfort in the arms of . . . "
GIVE ME A BREAK.
I'm not after any sympathy here, but . . . several years ago my wife was in and out of hospitals for three years with a series of serious illnesses. Life was tough for all of us -- her, me, three teenagers. I found comfort in holding the family together, keeping the kids on track, and taking care of her.
Prince is just another piece of shit who is not worth the price of the bullet to shoot him.
DavidDvorkin
(19,483 posts)"She became pregnant." It just, kinda, you know, happened.
Vinca
(50,302 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)prince.
LudwigPastorius
(9,166 posts)his own civilian-murdering army, knocking up his mistress while his wife was dying is a moral step up.
JDC
(10,130 posts)And family support structure. A disgusting selfish prick. No wonder he and *45 get along so swimmingly. His needs above all else....
Initech
(100,099 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)at work.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)snip
But there ends the princely tale. By 2003, when his wife, Joan, was dying of cancer, Prince couldnt hide his affair with the familys former nanny, Joanna Houck. She had moved from Michigan to work for Blackwater, at its Moyock, N.C., facilities and wound up pregnant with Princes child before Joans death. At some point, Joan found out and, according to one person close to her, insisted that that woman be kept away from her children, Simons reports. Even so, Houck showed up at her funeral already pregnant and married Prince a year later.
Much more:
https://www.politico.com/story/2009/07/blackwater-behind-the-brass-025140
Exotica
(1,461 posts)3catwoman3
(24,032 posts)...was Gingrich and his weak-ass excuse that he's had become involved with crazy-eyed Callista because he was working too hard because he loved his country so much.
Bullshitters - both of them.
riversedge
(70,285 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Hekate
(90,774 posts)I just didn't care enough to remember such details as there were in the newspapers.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,883 posts)AmandaRuth
(3,105 posts)He tells the story of adultery - because, like he had no where to put his penis because his wife was just not available, just you know, dying--- because that's what we, woman, are to evangelical men, just receptacles.
Sorry for the offensive language, but that's how I see it.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Blue Owl
(50,489 posts)What a despicable POS
Maven
(10,533 posts)doesn't it?
I'm sure it was just a coincidence that this woman "was hired to perform administrative functions" (note the passive voice) in one of your offices while you were "finding comfort" with her. Right?
And then - out of nowhere - she "became pregnant"! Miraculous!
I would love to have been a fly on the wall when ol' Erik was meeting with his editor to decide how they would, uh, tell this part of his story. What a guy!