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wishstar

(5,269 posts)
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 06:14 AM Mar 2018

New Yorker article explains Clinton campaign/Obama/Biden knew nothing about Steele dossier/FBi probe

Entire lengthy article is very informative- posted four paragraphs

"For all the Republicans’ talk of a top-down Democratic plot, Steele and Simpson appear never to have told their ultimate client—the Clinton campaign’s law firm—that Steele had gone to the F.B.I. Clinton’s campaign spent much of the summer of 2016 fending off stories about the Bureau’s investigation into her e-mails, without knowing that the F.B.I. had launched a counter-intelligence investigation into the Trump team’s ties to Russia—one fuelled, in part, by the Clinton campaign’s own opposition research. As a top Clinton-campaign official told me, “If I’d known the F.B.I. was investigating Trump, I would have been shouting it from the rooftops!”

On January 5, 2017, it became clear that at least two Washingtonians remained in the dark about the dossier: the President and the Vice-President. That day, in a top-secret Oval Office meeting, the chiefs of the nation’s top intelligence agencies briefed Obama and Biden and some national-security officials for the first time about the dossier’s allegation that Trump’s campaign team may have colluded with the Russians. As one person present later told me, “No one understands that at the White House we weren’t briefed about the F.B.I.’s investigations. We had no information on collusion. All we saw was what the Russians were doing. The F.B.I. puts anything about Americans in a lockbox.”

One subject that Steele is believed to have discussed with Mueller’s investigators is a memo that he wrote in late November, 2016, after his contract with Fusion had ended. This memo, which did not surface publicly with the others, is shorter than the rest, and is based on one source, described as “a senior Russian official.” The official said that he was merely relaying talk circulating in the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but what he’d heard was astonishing: people were saying that the Kremlin had intervened to block Trump’s initial choice for Secretary of State, Mitt Romney. (During Romney’s run for the White House in 2012, he was notably hawkish on Russia, calling it the single greatest threat to the U.S.) The memo said that the Kremlin, through unspecified channels, had asked Trump to appoint someone who would be prepared to lift Ukraine-related sanctions, and who would coöperate on security issues of interest to Russia, such as the conflict in Syria. If what the source heard was true, then a foreign power was exercising pivotal influence over U.S. foreign policy—and an incoming President.
As fantastical as the memo sounds, subsequent events could be said to support it. In a humiliating public spectacle, Trump dangled the post before Romney until early December, then rejected him. There are plenty of domestic political reasons that Trump may have turned against Romney. Trump loyalists, for instance, noted Romney’s public opposition to Trump during the campaign. Roger Stone, the longtime Trump aide, has suggested that Trump was vengefully tormenting Romney, and had never seriously considered him. (Romney declined to comment. The White House said that he was never a first choice for the role and declined to comment about any communications that the Trump team may have had with Russia on the subject.) In any case, on December 13, 2016, Trump gave Rex Tillerson, the C.E.O. of ExxonMobil, the job. The choice was a surprise to most, and a happy one in Moscow, because Tillerson’s business ties with the Kremlin were long-standing and warm. (In 2011, he brokered a historic partnership between ExxonMobil and Rosneft.) After the election, Congress imposed additional sanctions on Russia, in retaliation for its interference, but Trump and Tillerson have resisted enacting them.


https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier?mbid=social_twitter

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New Yorker article explains Clinton campaign/Obama/Biden knew nothing about Steele dossier/FBi probe (Original Post) wishstar Mar 2018 OP
another Failure of the FBI JI7 Mar 2018 #1
Yes, article explains slow walking FBI complacency thinking Clinton would win: wishstar Mar 2018 #2
On Rachel's show tonight it was mentioned that the FBI BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #3
This is a mystery I want solved. phylny Mar 2018 #6
K&R UCmeNdc Mar 2018 #4
Fucking Comey njhoneybadger Mar 2018 #5
K&R betsuni Mar 2018 #7
The Clinton campaign paid for the research but did not receive the DURHAM D Mar 2018 #8

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
2. Yes, article explains slow walking FBI complacency thinking Clinton would win:
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 06:22 AM
Mar 2018

Contemporaneous F.B.I. text messages disclosed recently by the Wall Street Journal reflect a similar complacency. In August, 2016, two F.B.I. employees, Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, texted about investigating possible collusion between Trump and the Russians. “omg i cannot believe we are seriously looking at these allegations and the pervasive connections,” Strzok wrote. Page suggested that they could take their time, because there was little reason to worry that Clinton would lose. But Strzok disagreed, warning that they should push ahead, anyway, as “an insurance policy” in case Trump was elected—like “the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

When excerpts of these texts first became public, Trump defenders such as Trey Gowdy seized on them as proof that the F.B.I. had schemed to devise “an insurance policy” to keep Trump from getting elected. But a reading of the full text chain makes it clear that the agents were discussing whether or not they needed to focus urgently on investigating collusion.

BigmanPigman

(51,594 posts)
3. On Rachel's show tonight it was mentioned that the FBI
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 06:28 AM
Mar 2018

didn't want to politicize this so they held back. I would like to know what in the Hell Comey was doing by bringing up A. Weiner's emails 10 days before the election?!?!? No one should buy his fucking book when it comes out as far as I am concerned.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
6. This is a mystery I want solved.
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 08:15 AM
Mar 2018

I cannot understand why he said what he said, both when "exonerating" Clinton (paraphrasing: We found nothing, but she was sloppy!) to the Weiner email "reveal."

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
8. The Clinton campaign paid for the research but did not receive the
Tue Mar 6, 2018, 09:09 AM
Mar 2018

information. It seems to me that Hillary is entitled to a refund from Fusion.

Also, fuck Comey. He is a sexist pig Republican.

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