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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRoger Stone, James O'Keefe slated for Siena 'free speech conference'
Albany Times-Union:The Sunday, April 15, event will include other conservative and libertarian speakers as well.
Stone is a political adviser, lobbyist and author with a long history in Republican politics. The self-described dirty trickster got his start on President Richard Nixons 1972 re-election campaign. In 1980 Stone co-founded the Washington, D.C.-based lobbying firm Black, Manafort, Stone with Paul Manafort, who would go on to manage Donald Trump's 2016 campaign for several key months. (Manafort faces more than 30 federal charges brought by Special Counsel Robert Mueller alleging his role in a decade-long money laundering scheme.)
Stone was an early adviser for Trumps presidential effort, but left the campaign in August 2015. The two men have remained in contact. Stone appeared before the House Intelligence Committee last September in a closed-door session to answer questions about Russian meddling in the presidential election; Stone has vehemently denied there was collusion between the campaign and foreign elements.
...and we should let them.
First, they're inviting these people PRECISELY to provoke a reaction from liberals, so they can claim we're "anti-free speech".
Second, if we disrupt or attempt to prevent them from speaking, we lose all ability to complain if conservatives do the same thing with our speakers.
College is an opportunity to learn and be exposed to ideas, especially ones we don't agree with. When I was in college during the early Reagan years, emboldened conservative groups brought in similar speakers. We engaged with them at their talks AND over drinks afterwards.
HootieMcBoob
(3,823 posts)But after theyve spewed their bile they must be open to answering questions and having their point of view or should I say poisonous rhetoric challenged. And it needs to be recorded. Sometimes just exposure or letting the world see the monsters for what they actually are is enough.
brooklynite
(94,600 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)Sometimes I feel like they're doing it just *SO* they can get cancelled, then they go whine to media outlets about how the mean old liberals won't let them spew their bile and garbage. Repeat the process. The best thing to do is let them speak, then just ignore the shit they say, no matter how vile it is. The best publicity they can get is no publicity.
poboy2
(2,078 posts)They do it to piss people off, laugh, and when people have enough of their shit, they cry 'censorship'!
Whiny pieces of shit.
Initech
(100,081 posts)They do it to *INTENTIONALLY* piss us off. No matter the outcome - whether it's good or bad publicity - anything they can do to get their name in the news is a good thing. That's exactly how Milo - as toxic as he is - gained followers. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If we do let them speak, they will spew the most vile, toxic crap they can think of just to piss us off, and it will get their name in the news. If the schools cancel, they'll just retreat to whatever media outlets will have them, rail on the "loony left", and it will get their name in the news. It's a win win for them no matter what the outcome is. And they call us the "snowflakes". Yeah right.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I wonder, though, if Stone and O'Keefe would show up if their speech really was free? That is, they didn't pick up a check for their spew? They'd have to change the program announcement to feature Clammy McClamface.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)numbering in the dozens.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)for they will expose the corrupt and bigoted nature of the Conservative.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)Like it or not, right wing nut cases have just as much right to pontificate as the left. They dont like it when the left does the same thing, but thats what this country affords us. Let them speak. Their idiotic babbling is recognized for what it is. And, until or unless our voting rights are stripped away, we still have some kind of sway. If that should occur, we have only ourselves to blame for sitting fat, dumb, and happy in our little homes, silent as the country we love becomes a communist state, because we didnt take the time or effort to vote. I fear apathy more than right wing speeches.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)of leading liberals and all the 'others' into death camps.
Just remember that.