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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:18 PM Feb 2018

It begins: This Kentucky school district just voted to let teachers carry concealed guns

This Kentucky school district just voted to let teachers carry concealed guns

Teachers could soon be carrying concealed guns inside schools in Pike County under a proposal that was preliminarily approved Monday evening by the Pike County School Board.

The unanimous decision came after the board heard concerns about school safety from teachers, parents and administrators during a town hall meeting at Pike County Central High School. The discussion was prompted by multiple school shootings in recent weeks, including one at Marshall County High School in Western Kentucky that left two dead and another in Florida that left 17 dead.

The motion authorizes the school board’s attorney to work with the Pike County Sheriff’s Office, which would oversee the program, to finalize a formal policy for the school board to consider.

Pike County Schools Superintendent Reed Adkins said he hopes the board will give final approval within two to three weeks, and to have armed staff in schools by fall, if not sooner.

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“This program … could be a model for the rest of the state and, possibly, the country,” said state Sen. Ray Jones, D-Pikeville, who attended the meeting.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article202341909.html#storylink=cpy
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It begins: This Kentucky school district just voted to let teachers carry concealed guns (Original Post) MelissaB Feb 2018 OP
MS Senate Committee also just passed a bill Luciferous Feb 2018 #1
I'm so sorry. MelissaB Feb 2018 #5
We won't be here much longer. We moved here for my husband's job a couple of years ago and his Luciferous Feb 2018 #23
Best of Luck on your upcoming Cha Feb 2018 #28
Thanks! My husband tried to warn me about living down here but I was tired of snow. Luciferous Feb 2018 #31
You had to see for yourself.. I was tired of Cha Feb 2018 #33
I wish I could live in Hawaii- maybe some day when the kids are out of the house! Luciferous Feb 2018 #34
12 whole fucking hours rurallib Feb 2018 #10
I will pull my child and homeschool him before I let him go to a school with armed teachers. I read Luciferous Feb 2018 #24
Sadly, Republicans will be able to undermine the public school system rurallib Feb 2018 #29
Honestly we could afford to put him in a private school, but I don't think the ones here would be Luciferous Feb 2018 #32
There is no way in hell I would allow my child to attend a school that was not gun free. onecaliberal Feb 2018 #2
Ditto. MelissaB Feb 2018 #6
This isn't beginning, it is continuation SCantiGOP Feb 2018 #3
I didn't know. This is horrible. MelissaB Feb 2018 #7
Right. Defiant pubs are just doubling down, Hortensis Feb 2018 #14
Rec- People need to know 7 States already allow teachers to conceal carry! appalachiablue Feb 2018 #35
Heres the list SCantiGOP Feb 2018 #38
THANK YOU! Holy moly, this is Bad.... appalachiablue Feb 2018 #39
As goes Pike County, so goes Pike County. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2018 #4
Wait a minute, now. Let's not knock the Kentucky bourbon... MelissaB Feb 2018 #8
Good luck, when the ak47 sweeps the full length of the hallway, rapid fire. I'm sure your little han lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #9
My grandson while in kindergarten loves anything mechanical. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #13
saves shooters the trouble of brining their own. rurallib Feb 2018 #11
How long will it take before one teacher shoots another one because of a disagreement Sophia4 Feb 2018 #12
Why would we have such dangerous people as teachers? Lee-Lee Feb 2018 #15
'For the same reason we have sexual abusers as teachers' would be my guess. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #22
And how long will it be before a teacher .... LenaBaby61 Feb 2018 #19
My guess is an accident would occur first. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #21
they might be wise to get insurance cause bluestarone Feb 2018 #16
If I were a student or a parent of one I would refuse attendance triron Feb 2018 #17
It will start with obnoxious attitudes. lpbk2713 Feb 2018 #18
Are the taxpayers on the hook for liability insurance? Vinca Feb 2018 #20
i'm sure some teachers there are not happy about this!!! bluestarone Feb 2018 #25
Hope families that are inclined quickly put their homes up for sale Deb Feb 2018 #26
Fuck!!!! God damn the gun nuts!!! Initech Feb 2018 #27
I just learned Minnesota has allowed guns in schools for years! NickB79 Feb 2018 #30
Thats part of the play - suggesting ideas already in use... hexola Feb 2018 #36
Unreal and a very bad sign for schools, people! and Minnesota.. appalachiablue Feb 2018 #37

Luciferous

(6,085 posts)
1. MS Senate Committee also just passed a bill
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:21 PM
Feb 2018

which would let teachers and staff conceal carry after 12 hours of training. Yet another reason for me to get the hell out of this state!

Luciferous

(6,085 posts)
23. We won't be here much longer. We moved here for my husband's job a couple of years ago and his
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:52 PM
Feb 2018

contract just ended. He already has a lot of interviews and we are hoping to move back to Wisconsin or Illinois. At this point I'll take Walker over having to live where my kid's biology teacher doesn't even believe in evolution!

Luciferous

(6,085 posts)
31. Thanks! My husband tried to warn me about living down here but I was tired of snow.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 10:05 PM
Feb 2018

Now I will gladly take snow over crazy people

Cha

(297,650 posts)
33. You had to see for yourself.. I was tired of
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 10:09 PM
Feb 2018

Frozen winters and snow, too.. I went back to Kauai.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
10. 12 whole fucking hours
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:38 PM
Feb 2018

almost wonder why so much. Americans are born with gun skills
for the humor impaired.

Luciferous

(6,085 posts)
24. I will pull my child and homeschool him before I let him go to a school with armed teachers. I read
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:57 PM
Feb 2018

it will be up to the school districts, so we'll see what happens.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
29. Sadly, Republicans will be able to undermine the public school system
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 09:36 PM
Feb 2018

by mandating armed guards.

I would expect parents by the millions across the country will be pulling their kids to home school them or look for some private school. - Although I would certainly wonder why private schools would be any safer?

Undercutting our education system should throw a big wrench into American superiority.

Luciferous

(6,085 posts)
32. Honestly we could afford to put him in a private school, but I don't think the ones here would be
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 10:08 PM
Feb 2018

any better than the public schools.

onecaliberal

(32,894 posts)
2. There is no way in hell I would allow my child to attend a school that was not gun free.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:24 PM
Feb 2018

I would also never agree to be armed.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
3. This isn't beginning, it is continuation
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:24 PM
Feb 2018

Seven states already allow teachers to concealed carry in schools.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Right. Defiant pubs are just doubling down,
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:47 PM
Feb 2018

like the ones at CPAC whom Mona Charen said were acting with sophomoric clownishness, doing whatever they could to stick needles in the eyes of Democrats.

They're going to lose. This will pass, and most will deny they were ever part of this.

appalachiablue

(41,171 posts)
35. Rec- People need to know 7 States already allow teachers to conceal carry!
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 10:23 PM
Feb 2018

WHICH STATES? I can imagine, but if you know pls. share. Tx.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
38. Heres the list
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 11:16 PM
Feb 2018

Actually 9 States:
Idaho, Utah, Colorado, Oregon, Kansas, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Mississippi and Texas all allow carry on campus. 9 more allow teachers and othe employees to have guns in their vehicles on campus.

4. As goes Pike County, so goes Pike County.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:25 PM
Feb 2018

State Sen. Jones' assertion that Kentucky's program could be a model for the rest of the country is the fantasy of a man who has drunk too much Kentucky bourbon.

The only thing that stops a bad man with an AR-15 is a SWAT team with AR-15s.

lindysalsagal

(20,730 posts)
9. Good luck, when the ak47 sweeps the full length of the hallway, rapid fire. I'm sure your little han
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:29 PM
Feb 2018

handgun will come in real handy....

But I do know children will be shot "by accident" if there are guns around. They are resourceful. They will find a way.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
13. My grandson while in kindergarten loves anything mechanical.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:42 PM
Feb 2018

One day he went down to the basement and set a mouse trap without being harmed one bit.

Kids around guns. A recipe for disaster.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
12. How long will it take before one teacher shoots another one because of a disagreement
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:41 PM
Feb 2018

about school policy?

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
15. Why would we have such dangerous people as teachers?
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:52 PM
Feb 2018

If the only thing stopping a person from shoting their coworker is acces to gun that person is obviously a very dangerous and troubled person.

Why are we letting such people be teachers?

Why do you think teachers are that kind of dangerous people?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. 'For the same reason we have sexual abusers as teachers' would be my guess.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:43 PM
Feb 2018

"Why are we letting such people be teachers?"

"For the same reason we have sexual abusers as teachers" would be my guess.




(space provided free of charge below for distinction lacking relevant difference-- because any good narrative needs one or two of those).

LenaBaby61

(6,977 posts)
19. And how long will it be before a teacher ....
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:29 PM
Feb 2018

Whose white feels "threatened" by a non-white student and shoots them to death?

Or, see a white teacher in a stand your ground state (RED states) feels "threatened" by a non-white student and shoots them to death?

This gun situation in the USA is escalating into an even DARKER and MURDEROUS situation if that's possible.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. My guess is an accident would occur first.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:41 PM
Feb 2018

My guess is an accident would occur first.

Not that it really makes a difference... a body three minutes from dead by an accidental gun shot wound coming into an ER isn't too different from a body three minutes from dead by a purposeful gun shot wound.

Happens at gun ranges where a nine year old accidentally shoot instructors, fathers accidentally shoot sons, patrons shot by employees, etc., despite these guys being responsible owners (until they're not)



(let's cue the little guy who argues "there are no gun accidents" as it's a favorite bumper-sticker of the NRA despite 'accident' being the most accurate word)

triron

(22,020 posts)
17. If I were a student or a parent of one I would refuse attendance
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:57 PM
Feb 2018

at any school where this was allowed. Lawsuits should follow.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
18. It will start with obnoxious attitudes.
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:04 PM
Feb 2018


Anyone they don't know will be assumed is a bad guy.

Civility will be a thing of the past.

Vinca

(50,303 posts)
20. Are the taxpayers on the hook for liability insurance?
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 06:31 PM
Feb 2018

The first time a teacher accidently fires a gun and it takes off a kid's head, someone will own the State of Kentucky.

NickB79

(19,258 posts)
30. I just learned Minnesota has allowed guns in schools for years!
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 09:43 PM
Feb 2018
http://www.startribune.com/little-known-minnesota-exemption-allows-guns-in-schools/184205071/

Lund carried the gun with the permission of his superintendent -- and under the provisions of a little-known exemption to the state's general ban on guns in school. The rule says that any adults who have a state permit to carry a gun can bring the firearm to school once they obtain written permission from a principal or other school authority.


I had no idea this was even a thing here! Holy shit!
 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
36. Thats part of the play - suggesting ideas already in use...
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 10:25 PM
Feb 2018

There are quite a few schools who already have these rules.

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