In Ohio, you cannot obtain a liquor license if within 500 feet of a school.

[OilemFirchen]

By contrast, you may not discharge a weapon on school grounds.

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[Ohiogal]

1. Hey, Ho, Way to Go Ohio!

(apologies to Chrissie Hynde)

[Igel]

2. Florida too, mostly.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.115.html

Schools can adopt curricula that use firearms, provided proper precautions are taken.

But what Cruz did, discharging his firearm ... Against the law. Like we need something to really start to think he did something wrong.

However, Florida does allow for self-defense. I guess in Ohio if you have a gun and a bad guy's taking aim at you, you have to say, "Well, I could shoot him and save my own life and that of the people around me, but that would be illegal discharge of a weapon, and that wouldn't be modelling proper behavior. So I'll model proper composure as I'm gunned down."

Pretty much every one of the half-dozen states I picked had a law against discharging weapons on school grounds. Some didn't have a self-defense clause or law-enforcement clause that I could find. But I doubt any prosecutor who had his rabies shots would bring charges against a good-faith use of firearms by either citizens or LE personnel in furtherance of self-defense.

I think I read that Ohio allows weapons on campus, though, but there was all kinds of verbiage around that I didn't bother to read.

[sl8]

3. Ohio and Federal restrictions of firearms in school zones:

Much more, including exceptions, at the links.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun-Free_School_Zones_Act_of_1990

Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990

...

18 U.S.C. § 922(q)(2)(A) states:

It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.

...

Definitions

Pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(25):

The term "school zone" means—

(A) in, or on the grounds of, a public, parochial or private school; or

(B) within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public, parochial or private school.

...

Much more at link.


Ohio:
From http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.122

2923.122 Illegal conveyance or possession of deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance or of object indistinguishable from firearm in school safety zone.

(A) No person shall knowingly convey, or attempt to convey, a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance into a school safety zone.

(B) No person shall knowingly possess a deadly weapon or dangerous ordnance in a school safety zone.

(C) No person shall knowingly possess an object in a school safety zone if both of the following apply:

(1) The object is indistinguishable from a firearm, whether or not the object is capable of being fired.

(2) The person indicates that the person possesses the object and that it is a firearm, or the person knowingly displays or brandishes the object and indicates that it is a firearm.

Much more at link.

[OilemFirchen]

6. Consider me schooled.

A person may, however, carry a concealed weapon into a public restaurant within 500 feet of a school zone (assuming that said establishment doesn't post a prohibition), but that establishment cannot procure a liquor license.

Does that sound about right?

[sl8]

7. Gee, I don't know.

Are you reading that somewhere?

[OilemFirchen]

8. I pored through relevant Ohio Code.

I could, of course, be wrong, but I don't think so. It would appear that CCW laws relative to school zones are more relaxed than blue laws.

BTW, a private establishment within 500 feet of a school zone can serve alcohol. We live within the proscribed range and a German club between us and the school (actually ten or so feet from the school zone) allows for that. That club, FTR, allows one to become a temporary member by buying a ticket at the door.

[sl8]

10. Got it. Sounds like you're right. n/t

[maveric]

4. In CA you cant legally smoke weed 1000 ft from a school.

[OilemFirchen]

9. In Ohio you can't smoke tobacco anywhere but within a hermetically-sealed closet.

Or so it would seem.

[Nevernose]

5. Theres a liquor store next to a gun store in my town

A town in which 500 people got shot a few months ago. My home town. The town I grew up in, got married in, had kids in, went to school in. Et cetera.

Yet not only is there a gun store adjoining “Dylan’s Saloon,” you can STILL purchase a bumpstock here.

Gun stores should, at minimum, follow the standards of a reasonable state. Does even Florida allow adjoining gun and liquor stores?

[OilemFirchen]

11. Was that the Waco biker shootout?

Wasn't all that legal under the Texas "Needed Killin'" law?

[Nevernose]

12. Las Vegas

I’m assuming that Texas, in its Puritanical ways (and where I spent my early childhood), that even Texas would t allow such stupidity.

58 dead, 500 shot, several hundred others suffering injuries. Roughly what the 82nd Airborne suffered on D-Day. October 1st. A day that a former student and friend was gunned down (and whose childhood friend committed suicide in grief a few weeks later). A day that my daughter worked as an ER nurse for hundreds of people who just wanted to see a country music concert, that my son in law received orders to board up one of the Cirque du Soleil showrooms with the patrons inside, a day that our family friends tell me about the brains splattered on them during a casual concert. They only tell me because I already know what splattered brains look like.

I’m not going to lie: shooting shit is fun. Driving out in the desert and shooting old trash and cacti is an adventure in and of itself. It’s time people found a new hobby.