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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums15 years after torture at Abu Ghraib, a historic ruling in the fight for accountability
Finally, a chance at some accountability for U.S. war crimes.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)Get thee to the greatest page
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)brer cat
(24,578 posts)I wish the ruling applied to the government officials who were culpable.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)But maybe that will come before it is too late and they die peacefully in their sleep.
Because they belong behind bars, dying there, as what they are - war criminals.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,640 posts)I'm glad to see you posting. Hope you're feeling well!
This is a bit of news that I might well have missed. Thank you!
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)I got the news in my email.
samir.g
(835 posts)I can't help but think of these fine upstanding veterans who gleefully committed war crimes, and the many that were never caught.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)A justice the victims can see as actual justice.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)Allowing this conduct to be acceptable definitely would be a slippery slope into an ethical black hole. This is good for us and our country.
magicarpet
(14,155 posts)Checks and balances in motion doing what should be done - if there was a wrong done - and a court of law recognizes the wrong - those done wrong/harm are entitled to just compensations.
We are a civilized society and recognize our obligations to maintain fairness and harmony that help sustain a civilized society that we want. Anything less is to permit and condone mayhem and chaos - which we seek to avoid.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Let's see what this ruling means in a United States governed by sadists and madmen.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)But this happened under sadists and madmen.
charliea
(260 posts)After they've paid whatever fine is assessed, hopefully enough to let the victims and surviving family live a life of luxury (after lawyers fees), seize their remaining assets as punitive punishment and revoke their corporate charter. Also they should publish who in the Bush administration authorized the use of this company. An argument can be made that their violating the Constitution since the Constitution's Supremacy Clause means all treaties are the law of the land. The US ratified the Convention against Torture more than 20 years ago. Perpetrators can/must be punished, so the corporation has to go...
Might add a little trepidation to the other bad actors
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)And I hope this opens the doors to go after the rest of the guilty.
bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)though at times it sure is slow
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)remains that way. Sadly.
Look at all the stupid stuff said about slavery, for example.
But this news gives me some hope.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)Torture done in my name horrifies me.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)Spent 2005 or OIF3 in Abu Ghraib as an NCO attached to the 18th MP's sent to "restore America's honor and dignity". I was an engineer/electrician and crawled all over that horrible place. The leaders wanted us to call it BCCF instead of Abu Ghraib, but that never worked. Just as we had no business invading Iraq, using Abu Ghraib was an especially sadistic and tone deaf move by Rummy and Wolfie and Cheney. The American public doesn't have a clue about the level of torture and death that took place there, both before we arrived and after. The stacking and stripping of Iraqi prisoners really didn't surprise the Iraqi's too much, as that behavior was expected in Abu Ghraib. In fact, many of the detainees weren't particularly bothered by it. But they knew that Americans had raped, tortured and murdered prisoners - a story that was widely known in Iraq before the revelations of torture made it to the good ol' USA. And still, those pictures won't be released.
Lock the whole Bush war team away in the Hague as they deserve. Then give 'em a quick trial and a good hanging just like they gave to Saddam. That would be apropos in my book.
Solly Mack
(90,773 posts)erronis
(15,303 posts)I've worked for many of these bandits (not CACI but no better) and they will sell their children to get a contract.
Contracts with the DOD or better the "agencies" are non-regulated and involve a huge amount of money and favors trading hands with no accountability. Even if there is nominal accountability, the DOD/etc. won't pony up with any numbers.
I can name 100's of fly-by-night and quote/unquote established corporations that suck at the taxpayers' teats. And good luck trying to find out the flow of money. There is no honesty or patriotism among these thieves.