My red state GOP policy grand experiment idea

[ffr]

I know, it's not perfect, but hear me out.

Conservatives and the NRA want guns in schools. Okay. Red state citizens apparently love guns. The GOP is all about states rights. Run with it, then as a grand experiment. Put guns in schools in red states and we'll see what happens.

The result will be one of two things. There will be more killings, which anyone who understands gun violence history could predict. Or even more students of the red states will join the gun safety revolt, crying out that they don't feel safe with guns in the classroom.

So let conservatives get their ultimate pipe-dream wish.

[crazylikafox]

1. Uh, NO!

You don't put the lives of innocents in jeopardy to make a point.

My son is a teacher in Indiana. These ideas hit home to me.

[ffr]

4. But every conservative politician is already saying they want to do this nationwide.

What's to prevent them from implementing arming teachers and putting more firearms in school? Nothing. Democrats are powerless.

This would be one angle we could propose to gun lovers. Okay, you do it first in your environment and let's see how it turns out. As opposed to no, we disagree with them completely and they implement nationwide arming anyway.

[Blue_true]

2. I read something similar in a public forum.

If republicans and the NRA want guns in schools, load up red states with guns everywhere and leave blue states to make their own policies.

[njhoneybadger]

3. If it does work in schools. The result we be a whack-a-mole scenario

The nut job who is easily able to buy a Battlefield killing machine will go to the mall or the park or the movie theater wherever his target group assembles

[Leith]

5. Two Things Wrong with This

1. Somebody intent on shooting a school can just go get a gun or several in a red state or via an illegal purchase. They would just cross a state border and commit their murders. rethugs would have a field day pointing out that blue states aren't safe, conveniently leaving out that it is their own policies that caused the lack of safety.

2. We already have rock solid proof that rethug policies don't work in other areas (Kansas and economics, for example). Nobody has been able so far to get them to take an honest look at their own failures. They certainly aren't going to start with their love of killing power.

[ffr]

7. From the president down, they want to arm teachers in EVERY school

So...
1) shootings is blue states would statistically be lower anyway than if we fight their fight on their front, no guns in any schools. They run all forms of federal government. We lose the argument, they put guns in every school. Or we go along with the red state plan. At least we have some say in preventing more gun violence.

2) Exactly. But even after they fail again, they'll continue in their counter-to-logic ways. They love guns no matter what. The best democrats can hope for is curbing more gun violence.

I suppose there's a 3rd option, and that would be to not take up the experiment, but instead stall until after the mid-term elections.

[Fresh_Start]

6. let the parents and teachers of each school district decide

for that district

[ffr]

8. Great, but who are you to tell the president and NRA conservatives in power what to do.

They want guns in every school. Your idea is denied.

[Fresh_Start]

10. control of schools is not under the federal government

although they have the ability to f-u schools...they don't run schools

[procon]

9. Your "grand experiment" would kill more kids and teachers, yeah?

Did you think this through? You seem so blase about putting kids and teachers in danger, indifferent to whether they live or die at the expense of proving your point. How jaded is that!

[ffr]

11. Did you not hear the pResident wanting to arm teachers in every school, all 50 states?

My idea would limit the number of schools to red states.

[procon]

13. So, you think children who live in red states are expendable?

It's a terrible idea when Trump is flaunting that hairbrained idea, and it's no less abhorrent to hear someone propose "red states" only. Why? Are those children any less precious than kids who live elsewhere? How can anyone rationalize that it's a good idea to let other Americans be killed just because you oppose their political philosophy?

You must know that everyone who lives in those states are not diehard Republicans, and thanks to gerrymandering, the Republicans might actually be the minority. Guns are NOT the solution, so just stop this crazy talk about killing kids because their parents might be a Republican.

[mcar]

12. Excuse me?

I'm a red/purply state (FL) citizen and I most definitely do not like guns.

You do realize that Democrats live in all 50 states? And so do innocent children.