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Initech

(100,080 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:06 PM Feb 2018

Dave Daubenmire Faults Male Students For Not Displaying Masculinity By Stopping Parkland Shooting

Religious Right activist Dave Daubenmire has been anything but shy about criticizing the male students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, for not acting like “real men” and tackling a shooter who opened fire on the school last week with an assault rifle, killing 12 students and five faculty members.

Daubenmire returned to this theme on his “Pass The Salt Live” webcast this morning, fuming that male students today are not being taught the virtues and responsibilities of masculinity.

“This will sound horrible, but I have to say it,” Daubenmire stated. “Instead of the aftermath of these shootings in Florida being, ‘Hey, dude,’ where young guys are saying to each other, ‘I’m gonna learn to fire a gun, I ain’t ever gonna let this happen again, I’m gonna learn to fire a gun,’ instead the reaction is, ‘Oh, please take the guns away.’ The exact opposite message! Meet power with power! That’s manhood, masculinity!

“We don’t even teach it, we have no concept of it,” Daubenmire lamented, adding that “guys like us who really get it” are ridiculed by people like Howard Stern and organizations like Right Wing Watch.

“Most guys don’t have the stones to stand up and say, ‘I don’t care what you say!'” Daubenmire screamed. “‘It don’t bother me! Here’s what I think! Suck on that one, bud!'”

After Daubenmire fumed that the fear of offending others is “so womanly,” one of the participants in the livestream piped up to share his theory that most men today display a lack masculinity because “they just want to sleep with the women.”

“Boys, your life would be a lot easier if you’d quit letting your peter rule your life,” stated Daubenmire. “I shouldn’t have said that either, and I’m not sorry.”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/dominionists-head-to-trumps-dc-hotel-to-bring-heavens-rule-to-america/




Someone want to tell Dave that Rambo is a movie?
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Dave Daubenmire Faults Male Students For Not Displaying Masculinity By Stopping Parkland Shooting (Original Post) Initech Feb 2018 OP
You know this jerk would have peed his pants and hid behind the kids to save his own ass. procon Feb 2018 #1
+10,000 Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #6
You first, Dave. Lindsay Feb 2018 #2
Um, what about the teacher who died getting in front of students? tanyev Feb 2018 #3
where the fuck were you, dave? spanone Feb 2018 #4
Fuck YOU! Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #5
Is this neanderthal still alive and breathing? zeusdogmom Feb 2018 #7
Dear Dave, it sounds horrible because it is horrible gratuitous Feb 2018 #8
Just a Republican being a Republican Saboburns Feb 2018 #9
Republicans are wondering why they're being "purged" from Twitter... Initech Feb 2018 #10
Everything is an action movie to these people MountCleaners Feb 2018 #11
A couple of male teachers saved lives. MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #12
How about we put this fucker in front of someone shooting an AR-15 at him and he can show us Luciferous Feb 2018 #13
This cowardly blowhard would have been crapping his pants and gone all fetal smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #14
He seriously looks like he owns a panel van or two. Initech Feb 2018 #19
Did He Serve In the Military erpowers Feb 2018 #15
I cannot find his bio per se, er, but heres some background via Forbes, 2014: Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #16
...and this, 2006: Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #17
Every time I hear someone described as a religious right wing activist... MrScorpio Feb 2018 #18
macho BS is exactly what causes these things in the first place; this guy is 180 degrees wrong, TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #20

tanyev

(42,566 posts)
3. Um, what about the teacher who died getting in front of students?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:11 PM
Feb 2018

The guy who died holding a door open to help others escape? The guy who’s still in the hospital because he got shot several times holding a door shut? Daubenmire needs to STFU.

zeusdogmom

(994 posts)
7. Is this neanderthal still alive and breathing?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:48 PM
Feb 2018

What a waste of protoplasim. Thought he had crawled under his rock for good.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Dear Dave, it sounds horrible because it is horrible
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:49 PM
Feb 2018

And you're a horrible person for saying it.

Wow, that was easy.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
10. Republicans are wondering why they're being "purged" from Twitter...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:00 PM
Feb 2018

It has nothing to do with their conservative views but everything having to do with them being hateful assholes! Stop posting hateful shit and we'll stop alerting you. Get how that works?

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
11. Everything is an action movie to these people
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:08 PM
Feb 2018

...where there is surely a superhero who will save everyone.

Luciferous

(6,081 posts)
13. How about we put this fucker in front of someone shooting an AR-15 at him and he can show us
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:16 PM
Feb 2018

how it's done? I'm sure it's easy to run your mouth when you haven't actually been in the situation!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. This cowardly blowhard would have been crapping his pants and gone all fetal
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:22 PM
Feb 2018

crying his eyes out if he had been there. I can't stand these insecure macho jerks. They aren't fooling anybody.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
15. Did He Serve In the Military
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:55 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:41 AM - Edit history (1)

Did Dave Daubenmire ever serve in the military? If this man did not serve in the military he has no right to criticize the young men of that school. There is a chance that Mr. Daubenmire has never known what it is like to have bullets flying at his body. Many of the young men who died in the shooting died trying to help other students. Many of these young men could have run away to save themselves, but stood in the face of bullets in order to save and protect their friends and fellow students. The young men ( as well as some young women) of Marjory Parkland showed true courage

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
16. I cannot find his bio per se, er, but heres some background via Forbes, 2014:
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:06 PM
Feb 2018

Bob Cook , CONTRIBUTORI write about youth sports.

Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.

Dave Daubenmire, America's self-styled high school football coach/Lord's evangelist, has a much better career going in the latter than the former.

Daubenmire, who's built a second career off of being the target of an American Civil Liberties lawsuit because he forced his players to pray with him, was trying to make his public school comeback, 14 years after stepping down once the school settled the suit. However, the board overseeing Lakewood High School in Hebron, Ohio, where Daubenmire graduated in 1971, in the town where he still makes his home, voted 3-2 against following the superintendent's recommendation to hire him as a football coach.

The move followed a month of controversy that swirled around the school when it became known Daubenmire was the leading candidate for the job. An online petition (with 4,000 signatures) was circulated, and the board meeting Feb. 12 featured passionate cases for and against Daubenmire.

So what's the big deal about a Christian coach? Well, it's not so much about him being a Christian, as it is about him being an overwhelming, bombastic pain in the rear end. Daubenmire himself, after getting fired in 2012 despite a successful run at the you-can-pray-with-the-players-here Fairfield Christian Academy in Ohio, said in a video acknowledging his run-ins with school administrators: "I can't keep my mouth shut."

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobcook/2014/02/13/americas-most-christian-football-coach-rejected-from-job-actually-coaching-football/#78109e821e86

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
17. ...and this, 2006:
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:11 PM
Feb 2018

Snip

And when that gets boring - as Talk to Action recently noted - Daubenmire has been known to burn a Koran to get his fix of media attention.

But how did Daubenmire come to fame in the first place?

His website has one version of the hero's origins: Dave Daubenmire, a veteran 25 year high school football coach, was spurred to action when attacked and eventually sued by the ACLU in the late 1990's for alledgedly [sic] mixing prayer with his coaching. After a two year battle for his 1st amendment rights and a determination to not back down, the ACLU relented and offered coach an out of court settlement. God honored his stand and the ACLU backed off. Coach's courageous stand, an inspiration to Americans everywhere, demonstrated that the ACLU can be defeated.

This is a curious usage of the word "defeated", given that Daubenmire's "courageous stand" meant him paying the ACLU $18,000 in costs, and the school district instituting an agreement which (according to the ACLU website)prohibits future acts of religious indoctrination and establishes a system for reporting violations of the agreement to the United States District Court in Columbus.

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http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/10/29/163433/89

DUDE BE CRAY FROM THE GIT GO OMG

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
18. Every time I hear someone described as a religious right wing activist...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:23 PM
Feb 2018

I take that as a clue that they’re about to say some outrageous bullshit in order to justify their own assholism.

That expectation has never let me down.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
20. macho BS is exactly what causes these things in the first place; this guy is 180 degrees wrong,
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:05 PM
Feb 2018

of course, but RW fundie types never miss an opportunity to blame everything on men not being in their "natural, rightful position of superiority" in society.

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