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DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:21 PM Feb 2018

Bernie Sanders mirrors Donald Trumps response to the Russian attack,

Bernie Sanders mirrors Donald Trump’s response to the Russian attack, just subbing in Clinton for Obama








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Seriously, this could be the end of Sanders 2020. Someone who cares about him ought to tell him how badly he stepped in it today. Jesus.

This should finish it off for BS.
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Bernie Sanders mirrors Donald Trumps response to the Russian attack, (Original Post) DURHAM D Feb 2018 OP
Hey Bernie, IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU njhoneybadger Feb 2018 #1
Oh Boy, Bernie stuck his foot in his mouth. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #2
He was serious? I thought he was lampooning Trump? OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #80
If Bernie becomes irrelevant, we need someone to fill his void. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #3
"This should finish it off for BS." NCTraveler Feb 2018 #4
Yeah, his comments might just poison more Democratic leaning voters. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #9
Doesn't surprise me at all. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #14
yep Exotica Feb 2018 #56
That's definitely a problem... NurseJackie Feb 2018 #17
Does he think that ONLY his "base" can hear his words? NurseJackie Feb 2018 #13
I know you disagree and I appreciate your position. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #16
Untitled Reply NurseJackie Feb 2018 #20
Bernie has always been divisive. We should never jrthin Feb 2018 #28
Everything you said is correct. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #31
I've had a good DU role model...you. jrthin Feb 2018 #35
### NurseJackie Feb 2018 #37
Another fan of Phryne Fisher, I see Hekate Feb 2018 #58
Yes, this is just his latest salvo at Cha Feb 2018 #98
But Wouldn't THat Be If He Ran As A Dem Again? Me. Feb 2018 #52
Yes to your subject line. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #69
I Think BS Will Be Called On Him If He Tries That Again Me. Feb 2018 #70
He has spent more time at events... NCTraveler Feb 2018 #74
He is making money off his presidential gig. nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #76
Yes, he is. Lots. Nt NCTraveler Feb 2018 #79
Yes. I wish he would go away. Tipperary Feb 2018 #83
I See Him On What Seems Like Every Sunday Show Me. Feb 2018 #77
In my opinion Tavarious Jackson Feb 2018 #78
He is toast! GWC58 Feb 2018 #103
Things that make you go Hmmmmm Generic Brad Feb 2018 #5
Horrible answer RhodeIslandOne Feb 2018 #6
DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Feb 2018 #8
He's fucking toast. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #10
burnt like, even Exotica Feb 2018 #57
Oh Good Grief! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #11
I second this emotion Exotica Feb 2018 #59
OMG! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #84
"I ate my own pudding and a candy bar, why didn't my neighbor stop me?" Says the diabetic. BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #12
Wow, Truly epic. R B Garr Feb 2018 #15
I would like proof, is there a link to Sanders saying this? thx in advance uponit7771 Feb 2018 #18
It was on VPR. The program will be re-run tonight at 7pm. I heard the clip but seaglass Feb 2018 #19
Areatha Franklins response uponit7771 Feb 2018 #21
The link was in the tweet, here you go... PunkinPi Feb 2018 #23
WTF, Bernie? mcar Feb 2018 #22
I'm over him. LexVegas Feb 2018 #24
Many people share your feelings. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #87
He's done. nt Maven Feb 2018 #25
As a bernie supporter...if this is accurate poboy2 Feb 2018 #26
This isn't really accurate, its taken out of context. Kentonio Feb 2018 #100
... betsuni Feb 2018 #104
I don't think he is that popular...my kids were wildly enthusiastic but none would vote for him in Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #107
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Feb 2018 #27
Not me.. nini Feb 2018 #43
I'm not. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #88
I'm shocked, just shocked he would say that! obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #29
Sure you are. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #33
hahaha obamanut2012 Feb 2018 #36
Can't anyone make it stop? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2018 #30
Ugh. Nonhlanhla Feb 2018 #32
Jesus Fucking Christ. LexVegas Feb 2018 #34
Is that a shout out to BS? DURHAM D Feb 2018 #38
LOL NurseJackie Feb 2018 #85
What a stupid response. What could he be thinking? nolabear Feb 2018 #39
This guy..... spicysista Feb 2018 #40
Given that he is not a Democrat he has no reason to sit down. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #44
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #45
It's not "protected status" as much as it is a rule to stop re-fighting the primaries... Hekate Feb 2018 #62
Who's re-fighting the primaries? spicysista Feb 2018 #65
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #102
Okay Bernie thats just fucking stupid and you know it. phleshdef Feb 2018 #41
I used to respect him but what has happened to him? 4now Feb 2018 #42
I do not know context of tweet. Perhaps "why the Clinton campaign didn't do something" refers to diva77 Feb 2018 #46
Seriously...you jumped in this thread to blame Hillary??? nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #47
I posted some factual information regarding what occurred with the 2016 election recount. diva77 Feb 2018 #48
Why don't you just listen to the interview. nt DURHAM D Feb 2018 #49
Fair enough. I didn't realize there was a link to an interview. I'll get back to this thread later diva77 Feb 2018 #50
No you didn't...what you have is an opinion. There is no fact regarding recounts...Was it posted to Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #61
No, it doesn't. He's just trying to deflect from the fact that HE had the power pnwmom Feb 2018 #66
Excellent points. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #90
Why this? Why now? Why couldn't he just SHUT UP? dalton99a Feb 2018 #51
Now That's The Question Of THe Day Me. Feb 2018 #54
Answer below... Cha Feb 2018 #67
Because he wants to fucking change the subject.. Cha Feb 2018 #63
Bingo Hekate Feb 2018 #64
Nail On The Head Me. Feb 2018 #68
Perfect! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #89
Mahalo, Jackie! Cha Feb 2018 #91
Nice to be around friends! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #93
Ye-ah you are! Cha Feb 2018 #94
This is a new low in victim-blaming. Hillary tried to tell us. What else was she supposed to do? Hekate Feb 2018 #53
I know - I felt as if Hillary was running against everybody in the general. LisaM Feb 2018 #55
and she still got 3 million (or more) votes more than Trump did!!! Exotica Feb 2018 #60
There it is. JNelson6563 Feb 2018 #106
You and me both EffieBlack Feb 2018 #92
One question. Will he get putin support in 2020? Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #71
Probably depends on Tad Devine. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #73
Not surprised. ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #72
White male privlage Tavarious Jackson Feb 2018 #75
So many assumptions... Eyeball_Kid Feb 2018 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Feb 2018 #82
SMDH Quayblue Feb 2018 #86
The JPR folks still don't believe there was Russian collusion so I wonder how they are taking stevenleser Feb 2018 #95
Yeah, real smooth move by sanders.. to Cha Feb 2018 #97
Hillary did do something.. the real Question is Cha Feb 2018 #96
Uh huh. That was a nice try... OnyxSharpie Feb 2018 #99
Bingo Kentonio Feb 2018 #101
Sanders is a JPR type ? stonecutter357 Feb 2018 #105

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
9. Yeah, his comments might just poison more Democratic leaning voters.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:36 PM
Feb 2018

Making it hard to win elections for the Dems.

Well, this does NOT surprise some of us.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
17. That's definitely a problem...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:48 PM
Feb 2018

... and from what I've been reading, many are in agreement that this isn't unexpected.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. Does he think that ONLY his "base" can hear his words?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:39 PM
Feb 2018

I doubt he can go very far with ONLY the support of his "base".

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. I know you disagree and I appreciate your position.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:45 PM
Feb 2018

"I doubt he can go very far with ONLY the support of his "base"."

In a field with six to nine solid Democrats in a primary, Sanders base can carry the day. HA Fucking Goodman and all.

I think we are in an amazing position if Sanders crawls under a rock for the primaries. If he doesn't, we are going to be a party divided. Only Sanders can do that to us. Only his ego is big enough. All while he is cashing out.

Did you see what his publisher correctly said about Sanders in their press release? His entrance into the primary last time around was just the beginning, not the end. They let that slip. He is a career politician who is just getting started. You can't make this bullshit up. Even Sanders knows it. It's why he is still pandering to HA Goodman and the like.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. Untitled Reply
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:53 PM
Feb 2018
I think we are in an amazing position if Sanders crawls under a rock for the primaries. If he doesn't, we are going to be a party divided. Only Sanders can do that to us. Only his ego is big enough. All while he is cashing out.
Nicely worded.

jrthin

(4,836 posts)
28. Bernie has always been divisive. We should never
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:14 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Thu Feb 22, 2018, 11:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Forget that Bernie wanted to have Obama primaried in 2012 but could find no one to do it. Had Obama been primaried, we would have had a President Romney, as the votes were so close. Bernie's always been a backbencher throwing rocks. And remember, he's not a Democrat.

Cha

(297,285 posts)
98. Yes, this is just his latest salvo at
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:25 AM
Feb 2018

division. And, it's not smart at all. he only hurts himself.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
52. But Wouldn't THat Be If He Ran As A Dem Again?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:31 PM
Feb 2018

and had the party backing. I think we all can agree...been there, done that.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
69. Yes to your subject line.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:30 PM
Feb 2018

Who is going to stop him? They tried to pay off his base last time around by catering to some of his people.

He started running as a Democrat for the primaries early in his career. A lot of people aren’t aware of that. He then ditches the label in the primary. Precedent has been set on that for decades.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
70. I Think BS Will Be Called On Him If He Tries That Again
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:33 PM
Feb 2018

but then I don't think he'll run again, especially if he's counting on OR to buoy him.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
74. He has spent more time at events...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:42 PM
Feb 2018

Outside of his state than in it. He is taking ignorant shots at Clinton. What he seems to be doing is holding his base together. He is about worthless when it comes to endorsements. That makes me think he is running. The only way I think it will be stopped is if a couple of state require a certain amount of taxes to be released. I think that would have already been done.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
77. I See Him On What Seems Like Every Sunday Show
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:46 PM
Feb 2018

and think he's like an attention junkie. However, if he thinks he going to run I hope he's prepared for all the oppo that will come down on him...he has no idea and now that the gloves are off he may end up punch drunk.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
78. In my opinion
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:46 PM
Feb 2018

Now remember, I said MY OPINION... Bernie is still pushing the Russian narrative and wants their help in 2020

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
6. Horrible answer
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:35 PM
Feb 2018

Bernie should now be done at the national stage. This is not how a leader takes responsibility.

Response to DURHAM D (Original post)

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
12. "I ate my own pudding and a candy bar, why didn't my neighbor stop me?" Says the diabetic.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:36 PM
Feb 2018

that is what Sanders is claiming. Sheesh

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
15. Wow, Truly epic.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:43 PM
Feb 2018

The same attacks on Hillary.... For at least a couple years now.

Toast is an understatement...

seaglass

(8,173 posts)
19. It was on VPR. The program will be re-run tonight at 7pm. I heard the clip but
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:53 PM
Feb 2018

can't find the link. I'll post it if I do.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
21. Areatha Franklins response
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:55 PM
Feb 2018



I knew something was funny when dude wouldn't show his taxes too.

Something aint right, he used the same damn excuse Benedict Donald used ...
 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
26. As a bernie supporter...if this is accurate
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:11 PM
Feb 2018

(Calm down, I voted for Hillary in the general)

I have to say that at this time/circumstance, Bernie is doing harm.
As a Bernie guy, I think it is best he NOT run.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
100. This isn't really accurate, its taken out of context.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:38 AM
Feb 2018

If you follow the link in the op you can see the whole interview plus the statement he released afterwards expressing his support for Clinton.

Just yet another shitty attack thread.

As for whether he should run, don't mistake the mood of this place with the mood of the country. He's wildly popular still, and just because a group of people on DU can't grow up and get over the primaries makes absolutely no difference to how the next primaries will go.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
107. I don't think he is that popular...my kids were wildly enthusiastic but none would vote for him in
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 09:28 AM
Feb 2018

20...the girls are upset about the identity politics statements (me too) and my son is shocked that he may have known about the Russians.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
32. Ugh.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:18 PM
Feb 2018

1. If he could not see that there were bots out helping his campaign with a clear intention to harm Hillary, he must be really blind. This was quite obvious at the time.

2. Blaming Hillary. Seriously? WTF?

Sadly, this does not surprise me.

nolabear

(41,984 posts)
39. What a stupid response. What could he be thinking?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:39 PM
Feb 2018

Oh, right. He’s thinking what he’s always thought, just out loud.

spicysista

(1,663 posts)
40. This guy.....
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:44 PM
Feb 2018

I try not to post things about Bernie because he's so divisive. It's one of the reasons why I was only a lurker before the big crash on election day. But someone needs to tell him to have several seats. He has done enough damage. ?ig_cache_key=MTAwNDY3NDg2MDQ3MjI4ODMzMA%3D%3D.2

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
44. Given that he is not a Democrat he has no reason to sit down.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:03 PM
Feb 2018

He thinks that he, along with Nina Turner, is running a revolution.

Response to DURHAM D (Reply #44)

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
62. It's not "protected status" as much as it is a rule to stop re-fighting the primaries...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:03 PM
Feb 2018

...because that in itself is divisive as hell.

spicysista

(1,663 posts)
65. Who's re-fighting the primaries?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:12 PM
Feb 2018

This is in reference to his current behavior. The fighting prior to the shut down and it's ugly racial over tones is what kept me away. I have no interest in beating that dead horse. This is about now. I believed then and now that we are always stronger together. I'm not sure Bernie shares that view. That's why I was asking.....

Response to spicysista (Reply #65)

4now

(1,596 posts)
42. I used to respect him but what has happened to him?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:50 PM
Feb 2018

I am more disgusted with him every time he opens his mouth

diva77

(7,643 posts)
46. I do not know context of tweet. Perhaps "why the Clinton campaign didn't do something" refers to
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:16 PM
Feb 2018

HRC's staff -- who, despite being strongly urged by people such as John Bonifaz to conduct a recount of the 2016 election, did not choose to move forward with one.
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2016 United States presidential election recounts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_recounts
SNIP
Following Republican nominee Donald Trump's presumed electoral college victory in the United States presidential election of 2016, a group of computer scientists, cyber security experts, and election monitors raised concerns about the integrity of the election results. They urged the campaign staff of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who had conceded the campaign on November 9,[1] to petition for a recount in three key states: Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.[2] When the Clinton campaign declined to file for recounts, Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein agreed to spearhead the recount effort on November 23, on the grounds that unspecified "anomalies" may have affected the election's outcome. The Clinton team subsequently pledged to support the recount efforts "in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides."[3][4][5] President-elect Trump and his supporters filed legal motions in all three states to prevent the recounts.[6] Two other states were the subject of recount bids that were separate from Stein's efforts in the Rust Belt states: American Delta Party/Reform Party presidential candidate Rocky De La Fuente filed for a partial recount in Nevada on November 30,[7] and three Florida citizens filed for a complete hand recount in their state on December 6.[8]
SNIP
Background

After the election, a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers including J. Alex Halderman, (director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society) and John Bonifaz, (founder of the National Voting Rights Institute) began studying the election results and found statistical anomalies. For example, Clinton's votes were 7% lower than expected in counties that used electronic voting machines to tally votes, as opposed to using paper ballots and optical scan voting systems;[18][19] in Wisconsin, there was a significant increase in the number of absentee ballots and Trump did far better than expected in counties that used only electronic voting; and there was a sizable increase in the number of ballots cast in Michigan that left the presidential field blank.[20]

The 2016 presidential election was also unprecedented in that, as The Guardian reports:

"The election had taken place against a backdrop of warnings from the US government that Russian hackers were “scanning and probing” the election systems of American states, and were behind the theft of emails from the Democratic National Committee and John Podesta, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Eight days before the election, the White House had used an emergency hotline to warn Russia against further interference."[20]

The loose coalition of computer scientists and lawyers advocated for an election recount in three battleground states (Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan)[21] where President-elect Trump had narrow victories of less than 1%.[22] Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes (0.2%), Pennsylvania by 49,543 (0.8%), and Wisconsin by 27,257 votes (0.7%). A shift of half of these from Trump to Clinton would mean Clinton would get enough electoral votes to win, and a shift in these states would constitute the smallest shift which would have this effect. In order to petition these states, a presidential candidate would need to file the recount request. Stein agreed to lead the effort after the group was unable to persuade the Clinton team to file.[20]
SNIP

diva77

(7,643 posts)
48. I posted some factual information regarding what occurred with the 2016 election recount.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:21 PM
Feb 2018

That is all.

diva77

(7,643 posts)
50. Fair enough. I didn't realize there was a link to an interview. I'll get back to this thread later
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:27 PM
Feb 2018

if I have further comment.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
61. No you didn't...what you have is an opinion. There is no fact regarding recounts...Was it posted to
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:03 PM
Feb 2018

take a shot at Hillary Clinton? It echoes Sen. Sanders ill advised comment regarding Hillary Clinton.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
66. No, it doesn't. He's just trying to deflect from the fact that HE had the power
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:14 PM
Feb 2018

to go public with what his campaign was observing, and to warn his followers not to fall for it. They would have been far more willing to listen to him than to Hillary.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
53. This is a new low in victim-blaming. Hillary tried to tell us. What else was she supposed to do?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:32 PM
Feb 2018

Did Bernie try to help get the message out? Did he admit in real time that his campaign was being helped by bots and trolls? Did he immediately jump in with a full-throated and honest defense and endorsement of Hillary? Did he publicly recognize the existential threat to our democracy?

I must have missed all that if he did. I seem to be missing it now.

Bye-bye Bernie.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
55. I know - I felt as if Hillary was running against everybody in the general.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:42 PM
Feb 2018

Against Trump, against the inaction of the Obama administration, against some of Bernie's supporters, against Jill Stein (who seemed to be gunning for Hillary, not Trump), against Putin. Even Biden says crap about her campaign now.

I've never seen a candidate take so much crap, and do it so gracefully.

 

Exotica

(1,461 posts)
60. and she still got 3 million (or more) votes more than Trump did!!!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:54 PM
Feb 2018

Last edited Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:09 AM - Edit history (1)

Russian robbery on the backs of RW scum and delusional Bro's

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
71. One question. Will he get putin support in 2020?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:39 PM
Feb 2018

If so, he'll run again. And again. And again.

I was with you for about two months Bernie. Then you became obvious.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
81. So many assumptions...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:55 PM
Feb 2018

Sanders will be in his mid-70s in 2020. Now, I'm not far behind Bernie in age, but I think that we need younger leaders to take up the leadership. Bernie's got great experience and terrific drive, and he's smart as all get-out, but he's way past his prime. The party needs an energy boost, and they're not going to get it from Sanders or HRC. Both need to take advisory and support roles.

As an aside, the quotes printed above give the impression that Sanders was referring to the Clinton campaign's knowledge of Russian interference in the campaigns in general, once again assuming that Sanders' campaign was clueless and had no idea that Russians were in the mix. That's a little hard to believe, given that Tad Devine has Ukrainian and Russian connections since well before he became Sanders' campaign manager. But in the long run, it probably doesn't matter. Sanders won't be in contention in 2020.

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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
95. The JPR folks still don't believe there was Russian collusion so I wonder how they are taking
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:36 AM
Feb 2018

Sanders not only acknowledging that Russians were all over the 2016 primaries and election but now blaming Hillary for it.

I wonder if they will pivot from not believing it occurred at all to blaming Hillary.

Cha

(297,285 posts)
97. Yeah, real smooth move by sanders.. to
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:04 AM
Feb 2018

avoid taking any responsibility himself.. that's his go to.. Blame Hillary.

That really hasn't worked out so well for him.

Cha

(297,285 posts)
96. Hillary did do something.. the real Question is
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 02:01 AM
Feb 2018

why don't you take responsibility for yourself, sanders?

 

OnyxSharpie

(33 posts)
99. Uh huh. That was a nice try...
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:30 AM
Feb 2018

Someone obviously wanted to take him down good, I listened to the whole segment. Kept hammering at him with the same “gotcha” question, inferring that he himself knew something about Russian interference and should have told his supporters about it - but did not - at the exact same time he was out campaigning for Hillary. This is innuendo, an obvious hit piece and it makes absolutely no sense to anyone with sense.

And, no... it will not “finish him off”. Keep dreaming.

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