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a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:11 PM Feb 2018

I remember when everyone smoked, and now its so looked down upon.....

May-be owning a gun will be looked down upon as well within the near future, I know apples to oranges.....just saying with all this heightened involvement and discussions, may-be just may-be Action will happen.

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I remember when everyone smoked, and now its so looked down upon..... (Original Post) a kennedy Feb 2018 OP
Peer pressure works across agendas WhiteTara Feb 2018 #1
yep, I one who is still trying to quit turnitup Feb 2018 #2
+1 dewsgirl Feb 2018 #6
Hey, quitting smoking was the hardest thing ive EVER done...... a kennedy Feb 2018 #15
If Chantix does not work, try vaping. LuckyCharms Feb 2018 #17
they both kill! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2018 #3
That is if anyone is still alive. BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #4
I remember one from Yul Byrnner Danmel Feb 2018 #7
Yes, their anger and passion will BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #8
Second hand ammo is a killer lame54 Feb 2018 #5
One big difference is that some our heroes carry guns everyday. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #9
And when cigarettes were popular, some of our heroes smoked everyday as well LanternWaste Feb 2018 #11
Yes, but armed 'heroes' won't stop carrying and using firearms the way 'hero' smokers did. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #12
Same thing with drunk driving gratuitous Feb 2018 #10
well said Skittles Feb 2018 #13
One big difference TexasProgresive Feb 2018 #14
Well, thats another action that can be taken. a kennedy Feb 2018 #16
Have to get rid of: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act first. TexasProgresive Feb 2018 #18
It starts with 'No Shooting' sections in restaurants Generic Brad Feb 2018 #19

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
1. Peer pressure works across agendas
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:12 PM
Feb 2018

so you might be right. Wouldn't that be great. It would definitely aid world peace.

 

turnitup

(94 posts)
2. yep, I one who is still trying to quit
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:14 PM
Feb 2018

just got Chantix from my Dr. I call myself a closet smoker because very few people know I smoke. Hopefully that will all change soon with the Chantix

I hope you are right about guns

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
15. Hey, quitting smoking was the hardest thing ive EVER done......
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:13 PM
Feb 2018

I tried at least 3 - 4 times to quit. Keep with it you’ll succeed and you’ll be free of them. I’m proud to say it’s been 13 years, May 2, 2005. So proud of you for trying.

LuckyCharms

(17,444 posts)
17. If Chantix does not work, try vaping.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:22 PM
Feb 2018

Never took a drag off a cig again after first vape. Everything got better healthwise, too. Vaping takes care of the need to mimic the act of smoking by putting something in your mouth. This important factor is overlooked by gum, patch and pill solutions. That being said, best of luck, and I hope the Chantix works for you.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
4. That is if anyone is still alive.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:19 PM
Feb 2018

I remember a lot of famous smokers making anti smoking commercials before they died of lung cancer. They just mentioned on MSNBC how the tobacco lobby was changed by grassroots activism pressuring the lawmakers and the AMA supported change. Gun control is a public safety issue like drunk driving. Until the MADD group was formed and pressured the govt nothing changed.

There is hope! # ENOUGH

Here is what we can all do to support gun control through legislation/govt and activism/planned events for March and April. The number has tripled since Fri.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10112196

Danmel

(4,915 posts)
7. I remember one from Yul Byrnner
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:27 PM
Feb 2018

He directed them to be aired after his death.



I think the parkland kids are feeling the urgency of now. They will not be silenced. They are exactly what we need now. They are justifiably angry and aren't waiting for everyone's attention to drift off.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
8. Yes, their anger and passion will
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:31 PM
Feb 2018

drive them and continue to energize this movement. Our future leaders look like a glimmer of hope for our dismal, crushed country.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
9. One big difference is that some our heroes carry guns everyday.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:36 PM
Feb 2018

Police, FBI, Secret Service, military, etc.

Plus it is in the Bill of Rights.


 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. And when cigarettes were popular, some of our heroes smoked everyday as well
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:42 PM
Feb 2018

And when cigarettes were popular, some of our heroes smoked everyday as well.




One carton of Lucky Strikes per week (or Camels, Chelsea, Chesterfield, Craven, Old Gold, Player's, Raleigh, and Wings) were provided to each US soldier during WW2.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
12. Yes, but armed 'heroes' won't stop carrying and using firearms the way 'hero' smokers did.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:54 PM
Feb 2018

There isn't anyone smoking for the greater good of society.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Same thing with drunk driving
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:40 PM
Feb 2018

Heck, in some precincts, driving home when you couldn't remember how you got home was almost a rite of passage, and conferred a strange kind of adult status on a person. When MADD first got geared up, a lot of people said they were tilting at windmills; drinking and driving was too ingrained in the culture to be stopped or even curtailed; some really stubborn alcoholics would never give up their keys; and hadn't we tried this with Prohibition and it had been a miserable failure (any of this sound familiar).

Now? A different story has been written. There are still some folks who drive drunk, but even the most recalcitrant know they're engaging in reprehensible behavior. The problem hasn't been eradicated by any means, but society's attitudes have undergone a sea change. I used to really like the movie "Arthur" with Dudley Moore and Liza Minnelli; but I can't watch it anymore because of the scenes where Arthur drives around, drunk off his ass. The scenes are played for laughs, and it's just not funny.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
13. well said
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:54 PM
Feb 2018

the tipping point was when the gal who founded MADD - her daughter was run down and killed on the sidewalk by a drunk driver and he was out of jail almost immediately

a kennedy

(29,672 posts)
16. Well, thats another action that can be taken.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:16 PM
Feb 2018

THESE SENSELESS MURDERS HAVE GOT TO STOP, and EVERYTHING should be on the table. Sorry for yelling.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
18. Have to get rid of: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act first.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:08 PM
Feb 2018
The act was passed by the U.S. Senate on July 29, 2005, by a vote of 65–31.[9] On October 20, 2005, it was passed by the House of Representatives with 283 in favor and 144 opposed.[10]

The final bill passed only after adding an amendment that mandated safety locks on handguns, and after preventing the renewal of the assault weapons ban from being added.[citation needed]

It was signed into law on October 26, 2005, by President George W. Bush and became Public Law 109-92.[11] Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association thanked President Bush for signing the Act, for which it had lobbied, describing it as "... the most significant piece of pro-gun legislation in twenty years into law".[12][13][14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Act

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
19. It starts with 'No Shooting' sections in restaurants
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:53 PM
Feb 2018

Then it expands to entirely 'Gun Free' restaurants and eventual passage of the Indoor Gun-Free Act. Then it gets to the point where if they want to shoot, they have to do outside more than 50 feet away from the entrance.

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