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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:52 AM Feb 2018

So the 1st amendment doesn't count in Texas.

A superintendent in a Texas school district is warning that students will be suspended if they cause any disruptions to protest gun violence.

Needville ISD Superintendent Curtis Rhodes said in a letter that was sent to families and posted on social media that students would be suspended for three days if they took part in the protests happening in the wake of the deadly Florida high school shooting, The Houston Chronicle reported.

In the statement, Rhodes said that Needville ISD is "very sensitive" to violence in schools.


"Please be advised that the Needville ISD will not allow a student demonstration during school hours for any type of protest or awareness!!" Rhodes said.

"Should students choose to do so, they will be suspended from school for 3 days and face all the consequences that come along with an out of school suspension."

Life is about choices, Rhodes said, adding that "every choice has a consequence whether it be positive or negative."

"We will discipline no matter if it is one, fifty, or five hundred students involved," the statement said.




http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374814-evangelical-leader-pat-robertson-calls-for-stricter-gun-laws?__twitter_impression=true

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So the 1st amendment doesn't count in Texas. (Original Post) kpete Feb 2018 OP
That Superintendent is really asking for it, isn't he? MineralMan Feb 2018 #1
It's Needville. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #2
Why do people think that civil disobedience should have no consequences? X_Digger Feb 2018 #3
No is arguing otherwise. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #4
I would say the title of the OP argues otherwise. X_Digger Feb 2018 #6
Couple of points matt819 Feb 2018 #5
The first amentment (as interpreted by the Supreme Court) doesn't permit students to disrupt PoliticAverse Feb 2018 #7
Your constitutional rights have been suspended because conservatives don't like what you say. ffr Feb 2018 #8
The district loses money when kids aren't in school gratuitous Feb 2018 #9
That's not true. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #10
Juanita Jean-The Tale of Two Cities Gothmog Feb 2018 #11

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. That Superintendent is really asking for it, isn't he?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:54 AM
Feb 2018

He issued a dare. Will the students take that dare? I hope so.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
2. It's Needville.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:58 AM
Feb 2018

Nobody there is being prevented from saying anything they actually wanted to say. This is just a chance for the school board to bluster.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
3. Why do people think that civil disobedience should have no consequences?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:10 PM
Feb 2018

The first amendment doesn't protect you from getting fired if your boss sees you on TV when you called in sick, it doesn't stop schools from enforcing rules related to maintaining order. Students can be punished for disrupting class, even if it's for protected speech.

Think about it- if it were otherwise, then a religious nut could stand up all day and talk over the teacher without consequence, expounding on whatever bug crawled up their ass that day- planned parenthood, illuminati, new world order..

What schools can't do is place rules that infringe the first amendment that have no relationship to maintaining order. TInker, etc.

If you skip school, expect to be punished, however worthy the cause. Take it as a badge of honor- those who participated in civil disobedience in the 60's sure as shit did.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. No is arguing otherwise.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:15 PM
Feb 2018

"Why do people think that civil disobedience should have no consequences?"

No is arguing otherwise. You merely infer as such.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
6. I would say the title of the OP argues otherwise.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:17 PM
Feb 2018

I would say the title of the OP argues otherwise.

Why decry the 1st amendment not 'counting' in Texas, when the school board says, 'skip school, get punished'?

matt819

(10,749 posts)
5. Couple of points
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:16 PM
Feb 2018

1. As another poster has observed, civil disobedience has consequences. Fine. If they protest during school hours - and there is an actual rule saying that such protests are not allowed - they discipline away. I doubt the kids will care.

2. This boob says that they will not allow a demonstration during school hours. Okay. If school is out at 2:00, then the demo can start at 2:01. That's the problem with idiotic rules. There are always loopholes.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
7. The first amentment (as interpreted by the Supreme Court) doesn't permit students to disrupt
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:25 PM
Feb 2018

schooling.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
8. Your constitutional rights have been suspended because conservatives don't like what you say.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 12:56 PM
Feb 2018

They are about as un-American as can be. We need change and we need it now!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. The district loses money when kids aren't in school
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 01:10 PM
Feb 2018

Suspending one, 50, or 500 students for three days will cost Needville federal money that is tied to student attendance. Mr. Rhodes might want to re-think his approach to his opposition to student protest or awareness.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
10. That's not true.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 01:13 PM
Feb 2018

It's not daily attendance. Schools don't get paid for each day kids are in school. Do you think they lose money if a kid is home sick some random day?

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