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kentuck

(111,102 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:41 AM Feb 2018

Who is "Person A"?

Ari Melber was discussing this matter with Stephanie Ruhle this morning. He said that both Manafort and Gates were communicating with "Person A"?

Who would have been above Manafort and Gates that they would have been compelled to communicate with? Would it have been Don, Jr? Would it have been Jared Kushner? Would it have been Donald Trump himself?

My bet is on Jared Kushner. Don Jr will come later.

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Who is "Person A"? (Original Post) kentuck Feb 2018 OP
It could be anyone in his administration. Beakybird Feb 2018 #1
Could it be Manafort? Ezior Feb 2018 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Jim__ Feb 2018 #3
I wondered about them at first, but this says it's a business associate in Ukraine muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #4
From the many accounts of the van der Zwaan story rusty fender Feb 2018 #5
That would make sense if the goal is to offer Manifort a Sophies Choice. denbot Feb 2018 #6
Interesting theory NastyRiffraff Feb 2018 #7
Could very well be the case, rusty fender Feb 2018 #10
Some rabbits burrow deep. denbot Feb 2018 #13
Yup! rusty fender Feb 2018 #14
Whoever Person A is, they speak Russian sarah FAILIN Feb 2018 #8
I thought it might be Van der Zwaan's father in law eleny Feb 2018 #9
Probably someone in Ukraine or Russia. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #11
Boris Epshteyn? kentuck Feb 2018 #12

Ezior

(505 posts)
2. Could it be Manafort?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:05 AM
Feb 2018

Manafort is not named explicitly in the document, so maybe he's referred to as "Person A" for some reason?

We know that, according to the Mueller document,
- the dutch lawyer communicated with both Person A and Gates about the Tymoshenko report
- the dutch lawyer claims that he communicated with Person A to discuss Person A's family.

So
- Person A has a family and is close enough to the dutch lawyer to discuss family matters with him
- The lawyer, Gates and Person A all worked on the Tymoshenko report

It's probably not Tad Devine, since he stopped working for the Ukraine bros when they started to lock up political opposition. So maybe Person A is simply Manafort?

Response to kentuck (Original post)

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
4. I wondered about them at first, but this says it's a business associate in Ukraine
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 01:14 PM
Feb 2018

and an email was in Russian, which I think rules out Don Jr and Jared:

According to court documents filed in Washington and made public on Tuesday, Van der Zwaan failed to disclose a series of contacts in September 2016 with Rick Gates, a business associate of Manafort, and a person identified only as Person A, with whom Van der Zwaan spoke in Russia and who was described as a “longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates in Ukraine”.
...
In particular, Van der Zwaan failed to tell prosecutors or his law firm about an email in Russian, dated 12 September 2016, in which Person A asked Van der Zwaan to use an encrypted method to contact him. Prosecutors said the lawyer deleted that and other emails in an effort to cover up his contacts.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/20/trump-russia-inquiry-lawyer-who-worked-with-manafort-charged-with-lying-to-fbi

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
5. From the many accounts of the van der Zwaan story
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 01:54 PM
Feb 2018

that I’ve read, Manafort’s daughter has surfaced as a potential Person A. She is a lawyer and worked for the same law firm as did Zwaan, both stationed at the London branch of Skadden Arps...

denbot

(9,900 posts)
6. That would make sense if the goal is to offer Manifort a Sophies Choice.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 02:30 PM
Feb 2018

Does he save his daughter, or continue to protect Trump. That is how Mueller flipped Flynn.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
10. Could very well be the case,
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:05 PM
Feb 2018

but why would Zwaan lie about the content and timing of his correspondence with Gates? What was he trying to hide from the FBI?

denbot

(9,900 posts)
13. Some rabbits burrow deep.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:50 PM
Feb 2018

Who knows what underground connections those burrows make? I certainly don’t, but I’ll bet Mueller knows!

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
8. Whoever Person A is, they speak Russian
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 02:34 PM
Feb 2018

It said that was the language he was speaking to A.

We also know it was an American since they are masked.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
11. Probably someone in Ukraine or Russia.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:08 PM
Feb 2018

Mueller wouldn't name any unindicted WH people in this indictment; why warn them?

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