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Gallup no longer considers Texas a Republican state. (Original Post) RandySF Feb 2018 OP
Jeeze, what happened since Cha Feb 2018 #1
This Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #2
Mahalo, Gabi Cha Feb 2018 #4
he mea iki Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #6
The Audacity of HOPE.. Cha Feb 2018 #8
Trump was held to less than 10% margin in 2016 Gothmog Feb 2018 #49
Mahalo, Gothmog! Yay! Cha Feb 2018 #80
Ha Ha-Brietbart is worried about Texas Democratic primary turnout Gothmog Feb 2018 #81
Please make it so.. I think the Dems are Cha Feb 2018 #83
Yes NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #84
More The #BlueWave2018 is not just in Harris County but all over #Texas! Gothmog Feb 2018 #79
A lot of that map is begging to go blue. TexasTowelie Feb 2018 #3
That would be Just Desserts.. Cha Feb 2018 #5
TX, FL, GA, NC and PA... we can win these. Tatiana Feb 2018 #7
Penn just took a huge step in the right direction... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #44
I was at my county CEC meeting on Monday Gothmog Feb 2018 #53
Nor Arizona. Trump did not get a majority in AZ. grantcart Feb 2018 #9
K and R BadgerMom Feb 2018 #10
As long as Republicans control the leg, courts, districting and election process, I won't hold my br Midnight Writer Feb 2018 #11
At least we have the comsymplibmedia behind us! Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #12
Vote Democrat. Forget holding breath. Hortensis Feb 2018 #36
this, unfortunately. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #88
Pennsylvania..... SergeStorms Feb 2018 #13
We will take over Texas vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #14
I am with you! Trueblue Texan Feb 2018 #27
Awesome vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #28
Yes we will!!! Dem_4_Life Feb 2018 #32
It isnt a development at all FBaggins Feb 2018 #15
A "black, Muslim, foreigner" Democrat lost TX by 16 points in 2012, Hortensis Feb 2018 #38
Texas is turning duforsure Feb 2018 #16
Matt Angle, Aimee Boone, etc. have been working for decades at this. DFW Feb 2018 #18
There is an improvement LeftInTX Feb 2018 #47
You might met either Matt or Aimee at some point, then DFW Feb 2018 #59
Every one of those states listed as "toss up" went to Trump oberliner Feb 2018 #17
The wheels of change turn slowly. DFW Feb 2018 #19
Or maybe there was something more nefarious in all those toss-ups going Trump's way oberliner Feb 2018 #20
I have no doubt that there was plenty of that DFW Feb 2018 #42
Yep and all the states where HRC was up 2 - 3% that went Red Don were Voter Suppression uponit7771 Feb 2018 #23
Don't overlook fatigue Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #52
True MountCleaners Feb 2018 #70
Missouri went from solid to leans. xmas74 Feb 2018 #21
Indiana? Right. Sure. When? LiberalFighter Feb 2018 #22
Didn't it flip to blue in 08? vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #24
Yes Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2018 #46
Only for Obama. Then 2012 back to red. LiberalFighter Feb 2018 #77
K&R for visibility. Register voters and GOTV. nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #25
Woooooo HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Trueblue Texan Feb 2018 #26
Is Texas Jerrymandered? Johnny2X2X Feb 2018 #29
Oh yes very much so... Dem_4_Life Feb 2018 #34
True as far as it goes Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #54
Heavily gerrymandered. Javaman Feb 2018 #35
Yes. For example, the conservative counties Ilsa Feb 2018 #37
And this gem: dalton99a Feb 2018 #40
Wow DavidDvorkin Feb 2018 #48
To the nth degree uponit7771 Feb 2018 #60
unless democratic voters in all the competitive states get off their asses and vote beachbum bob Feb 2018 #30
Now, stop sending my TX donations to other states. X_Digger Feb 2018 #31
Great! crazycatlady Feb 2018 #33
South Carolina Corgigal Feb 2018 #39
Texas will turn blue one day and when that happens the GOP will have no chance to elect POTUS Gothmog Feb 2018 #41
+1, all the voter suppression is to stop what's going to happen in Texas. I knew uponit7771 Feb 2018 #61
Turnout was down 2014 compared to 2010 due to voter id Gothmog Feb 2018 #64
Indiana is considered NOT heavily RED? D_Master81 Feb 2018 #43
I was surprised to see that KY is also not Republican. How long has that been true? nt LAS14 Feb 2018 #45
It is still early but this is encouraging Gothmog Feb 2018 #50
Here are some more early voting numbers for Texas Gothmog Feb 2018 #51
Seats will flip from red to blue if that trend continues. LonePirate Feb 2018 #56
I hope that you are correct Gothmog Feb 2018 #57
These are the kind of statistics I like!!! nt LAS14 Feb 2018 #65
It is still early in the early voting period Gothmog Feb 2018 #67
Democratic turnout in Harris County is way up Gothmog Feb 2018 #55
+1 and this is for off year primaries uponit7771 Feb 2018 #62
You need to compare these numbers to 2014 Gothmog Feb 2018 #68
Well, if they aren't a RepubliCON state, what are they? A Russian state? Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #58
Texas is a republican state and will remain a republican state for the foreseeable future LostOne4Ever Feb 2018 #63
Way to be positive vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #69
Being realistic is not giving up. LostOne4Ever Feb 2018 #71
I don't have false hope vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #72
I will have hope once a dem comes close to winning a statewide election LostOne4Ever Feb 2018 #73
Well I can't flip this district vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #74
Good Luck! nt LostOne4Ever Feb 2018 #75
You as well vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #76
The Texas GOP is relying on voter suppression tactics that are not working Gothmog Feb 2018 #82
Democrats set early voting records at start of Texas primaries Gothmog Feb 2018 #66
Update on Texas turnout Gothmog Feb 2018 #78
A trump endorsement may be the kiss of death for Texas GOP candidates Gothmog Feb 2018 #85
I don't fully buy into this Awsi Dooger Feb 2018 #86
Today's updated turnout numbers Gothmog Feb 2018 #87
This is very interesting Gothmog Feb 2018 #89

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)
49. Trump was held to less than 10% margin in 2016
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 04:59 PM
Feb 2018

This is one of the lowest margins for a GOP candidate in Texas in a long while

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)
81. Ha Ha-Brietbart is worried about Texas Democratic primary turnout
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:16 PM
Feb 2018

This makes me smile





Brietbart is not a trustworthy source but it is nice to laugh at the angst being expressed about Democratic turnout by these idiots

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
84. Yes
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:27 PM
Feb 2018

Texas was about the same margin as "swing state" Iowa and Georgia and Arizona about the same as "swing state" Ohio.

TexasTowelie

(112,240 posts)
3. A lot of that map is begging to go blue.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 02:51 AM
Feb 2018

Of the statewide races in 2018 it looks like the Republican most likely to be kicked out is Ted Cruz. He doesn't poll well among Republicans and that last name doesn't help as a reminder of what happened in Florida.

Cha

(297,304 posts)
5. That would be Just Desserts..
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 02:56 AM
Feb 2018

if cruz lost.. all the ways he's tried to hurt people and lied since he got in.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
7. TX, FL, GA, NC and PA... we can win these.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:02 AM
Feb 2018

We just need some organization, grass roots support and $$$.

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)
53. I was at my county CEC meeting on Monday
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:11 PM
Feb 2018

CEC means county executive committee which is the meeting of all of the precinct chairs in the county. In 2016, we had maybe 30 or so attendees. On Monday there were over 120. There is a great deal of excitement on the ground. A new Tejano or Latino group was announced and the Texas Black Democrats are opening a new chapter in my county.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
13. Pennsylvania.....
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:03 AM
Feb 2018

This map was almost certainly made before the Pennsylvania Supreme Court re-drew the heavily gerrymandered Republican districts. I think it's safe to say that it now leans Democratic, bordering on solid Democratic. Just the way is used to be, until people like Rick Santorum came along and started cheating like a mofo.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
14. We will take over Texas
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:08 AM
Feb 2018

Once we turn it from red to purple to blue. Bye bye any chance of the GOP winning the presidency again.

We are working hard down here to flip this state once and for all. Be great to see all of the southeastern area blue. Stretch it from Washington state all the way to Texas. Flip Arizona to blue. We got a southern blue wave going.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
15. It isnt a development at all
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:47 AM
Feb 2018

Texas was grey on this map in 2016 as well.

The. Real developments are shifts away from red in VA/OH and the states surrounding IL

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. A "black, Muslim, foreigner" Democrat lost TX by 16 points in 2012,
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:20 AM
Feb 2018

an "evil, corrupt, white female, ambitious, murdering witch" lost it by 9 points in 2016.

I have no idea what sex or background our 2020 candidate will be, but assuming a generic personable white Christian male couldn't do wonderfully better in 2020 would not be smart.

Heck, these days I wouldn't bet against a candidate like Kamala Harris either.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
16. Texas is turning
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:01 AM
Feb 2018

Fed up with Abbott, Cruz and others, they realize now they'll destroy their health care, and Social Security. Seniors will not stand for anyone doing that, anywhere. Cruz and Cornyn just like the tax scam will vote for all social programs to be cut and destroyed. Texas House members of the GOP should be worried too as more learn they'll vote against these programs, and will cause many to run from supporting these people again. Cruz is hated even by the gop in Congress, and hope he would leave.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
18. Matt Angle, Aimee Boone, etc. have been working for decades at this.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:09 AM
Feb 2018

It is finally paying off.

As a contrast, about 15 years ago, I was at an event of the TX Democratic Party where Jim Carville was speaking, and he said when he was asked to speak before the Texas Democratic Party, he assumed the thing would be small enough to be held in a phone booth.

LeftInTX

(25,371 posts)
47. There is an improvement
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 02:36 PM
Feb 2018

I'm on the ballot for precinct chair! I was recruited. We thought there wasn't a precinct chair, so I filled out the forms. It turned out that there was. But, I'm on the ballot. Two is better than one!!

We certainly aren't as organized the Republicans in Bexar County, but I'm glad to hear that we are doing better.

The TDP has been holding training sessions for local parties. Also our local party is actively holding precinct chair training and recruitment.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
59. You might met either Matt or Aimee at some point, then
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:39 PM
Feb 2018

Tell them their friendly Texas Democrat in Germany said Hi! I promise you they'll know who you mean!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. Or maybe there was something more nefarious in all those toss-ups going Trump's way
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:11 AM
Feb 2018

As in - some "funny business" being involved.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
42. I have no doubt that there was plenty of that
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:35 AM
Feb 2018

Our task is to GOTV to such an extent that they have no chance to manipulate the figures credibly (e.g. 2008). Otherwise, they will do it again and again and again. It's not like there is any believable evidence that the country as a whole does better under Republican administrations. They HAVE to cheat on order to win. Maybe not for Senator from Oklahoma, but definitely for Senator from Wisconsin, Florida, or Governor of Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida (always Florida).

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
23. Yep and all the states where HRC was up 2 - 3% that went Red Don were Voter Suppression
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:15 AM
Feb 2018

... states.

At some time America has to come to grips the ReThuglican party is a problem and factor that in

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
52. Don't overlook fatigue
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:11 PM
Feb 2018

Putting aside those of us who follow politics and have real ideologies, a depressing percentage of Americans are just a bunch of flakes who get bored and want to mix things up every few years.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
70. True
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:05 PM
Feb 2018

I think it's how we got such a shitty governor in Illinois. If Twitler keeps running his mouth, some people will get sick of the overexposure.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
46. Yes
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 02:13 PM
Feb 2018

Pretty sure the Republicans here will make sure it doesn't happen again. We quickly went back to Romney in 2012 and Trump in 2016. And don't forget that we elected Mike Pence Governor in 2012. We had a run of Democratic Governors in the 1990's (Bayh/O'Bannon) but Republicans have had an iron death grip on this state since 2005. I believe that Senator Joe Donnelly is literally the ONLY statewide elected Democrat left and we have a (very) small number of Democratic Congresspersons. There are some Blue bastions in the state like Indianapolis (where I live) but the super-majority Republicans at the Statehouse keep trying to find ways to mess around with us.

Trueblue Texan

(2,430 posts)
26. Woooooo HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:59 AM
Feb 2018

I've been tellin' folks for YEARS there were a lot more libs in Texas than the media gave credit for! There are also a whole LOT of folks who are liberal and don't realize it! My dance teacher (in this EXTREMELY conservative town) told me, "You say you're a liberal, but you're not crazy. You have a lot of common sense." Well, DUH! Stop listening to Fox news and you might figure out they are mis-characterizing a lot more than just liberals!

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
29. Is Texas Jerrymandered?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:04 AM
Feb 2018

Might not be since Republicans have had control for so long they’ve probably just assumed they could keep without cheating.

Dem_4_Life

(1,765 posts)
34. Oh yes very much so...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:06 AM
Feb 2018

Texas would have been blue a LONG time ago if it wasn't for the gerrymandering. Take a look at Austin's districts. There are 6 congressional districts that run through Austin.

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Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
54. True as far as it goes
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:13 PM
Feb 2018

But that still leaves us explaining how a blue state went for Trump, Cornyn, Cruz, etc. At some point it becomes more likely that the state actually is red. For now.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
35. Heavily gerrymandered.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:09 AM
Feb 2018

thanks to cement head rick perry and his illegal redefining of the districts.

I live in Austin.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
37. Yes. For example, the conservative counties
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:17 AM
Feb 2018

of Victoria, Lavaca, DeWitt, etc, are tied with a democratic Nueces County, which is Corpus Christi and heavily Hispanic. Yet their representative is douchebag Farenthold. Part of the district around Austin includes a narrow section that snakes down to San Antonio, no doubt to lump as many Democrats together in a district that would obviously vote Democratic. It has some messy, gerrymandered sections.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
30. unless democratic voters in all the competitive states get off their asses and vote
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:42 AM
Feb 2018

it doesn't matter what gallop says. The real issue is having a voter base who reflects their anger at all things trump and all things republican come election time and get out and vote. We need to take back the state legislatures and governorships.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
31. Now, stop sending my TX donations to other states.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 09:52 AM
Feb 2018

One of the reasons I stopped donating to the DNC was because my donations were pissed away in 'batleground states' rather than here at home. Since that time, I've been giving to individual TX candidates.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
33. Great!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:06 AM
Feb 2018

Now I hope that last week's events inspire every high school senior in this country (who turns 18 before November) to register to vote and show up at the polls. I know the FL kids will.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
39. South Carolina
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:20 AM
Feb 2018

Isn't really deep red. It takes longer and longer to call that state. I just moved from there a year ago, it's purple. Won't be ten tears until blue.

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)
41. Texas will turn blue one day and when that happens the GOP will have no chance to elect POTUS
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:54 AM
Feb 2018

There are a large number of good Democrats on the ground working to turn Texas blue

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
61. +1, all the voter suppression is to stop what's going to happen in Texas. I knew
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:47 PM
Feb 2018

... this state wasn't deep red when I saw that over 50% of my neighbors were from coastal states.

Radio adds where I'm at are making sure to say democrat and "life long democrat" because they know the KGOP is going to get mud stomped come November

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)
64. Turnout was down 2014 compared to 2010 due to voter id
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:57 PM
Feb 2018

Democrats sued and the voter id law is gutted to a significant degree. Now one can vote with any form of ID so long as they sign an affidavit and did not have an approved form. In 2016 Harris County had a 200+ poll watchers out to fight GOP attempts to suppress the vote and Harris County turned solidly blue.

Gerrymandering is still in effect in Texas due the SCOTUS block the ruling of the three judge panel. I am hopeful that the rulings in the Wisconsin and Maryland cases will help for the next cycle.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
43. Indiana is considered NOT heavily RED?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 01:43 PM
Feb 2018

We have a Repub Gov, 1 senator i think about 9 of the 11 house members and the state house is all super majorities for the GOP. 1 chamber i think is 71-29 GOP. If thats a tossup this whole study is off. I know Obama won in '08 but other than that the Dems have won 1 statewide election in 8 years, Donnelly who ran against Murdoch (who said rape was God's will).

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)
50. It is still early but this is encouraging
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:01 PM
Feb 2018

I am seeing reports of higher Democratic turnout in the primaries across the state


Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
58. Well, if they aren't a RepubliCON state, what are they? A Russian state?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 05:36 PM
Feb 2018

Just kidding.

I see my state is still red as blood, there are a bunch crazy people here. The day after the school massacre in Florida, my neighbor's 16 yr old boy was target shooting. But the problem was, the target was on my property where I pasture my sheep.

No dead sheep....yet.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
63. Texas is a republican state and will remain a republican state for the foreseeable future
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:56 PM
Feb 2018

As a person who was born in, raised in, and still lives in Texas let me make this clear:

Texas is blood red and will remain so. It was a far right wing state when it joined the union over 100 years ago, and it will remain so for the foreseeable future.

Please please please stop selling this false hope to the desperate. I fell for it with Wendy Davis, and I won’t fall for it again. Had Texas been turning Blue as everyone he claims she would have given Abbot a close race.

Instead she got blown out of the water in such an way that I still hurt remembering it.

Texas is my home. There is zero sign that it is turning blue where I live (the heavily Hispanic 23rd district). If anything people are getting MORE CONSERVATIVE not less.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
69. Way to be positive
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 07:53 PM
Feb 2018

So just give up and roll over and die then? No...fight to turn it blue. The tide is turning. Just don't give up hope.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
72. I don't have false hope
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 08:59 PM
Feb 2018

I have hope. But realistically yeah its red, but it isn't getting more conservative. 300% up for dems in early voting. That's highly usual. I have hope along with many other Texans

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
73. I will have hope once a dem comes close to winning a statewide election
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 12:41 AM
Feb 2018

But I don't see that happening anytime soon. Early voting is meaningless if we ultimately get less votes.

Abbot is going to win. Patrick is going to win. Cruz is going to win. Cornin is going to win.

and so on...

What I am planning to work on is getting my district to flip back to blue. That is a realistic goal. I will work on pie in the sky goals after that.

Gothmog

(145,313 posts)
82. The Texas GOP is relying on voter suppression tactics that are not working
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 05:21 PM
Feb 2018

The demographic trends are in favor of the Democratic party. Older GOP voters are dying off and are being replaced by younger voters who do not support the GOP. The projections that I have seen show that Texas will be blue by 2022.

The Texas GOP knows these trends and are trying to rely on gerrymandering and voter suppression. Congressman Marc Veasey sued and the Texas voter id law was largely gutted. The Texas gerrymandering case will be argued before the SCOTUS and the Wisconsin partisan gerrymandering case was argued back in October or November. The GOP will not be able to maintain control over Texas forever.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
86. I don't fully buy into this
Tue Feb 27, 2018, 05:30 PM
Feb 2018

Arizona is the next state on the flip agenda. That state has already produced competitive statewide races despite not a full push, and an exit poll revealing 27% self-identified liberals.

I can guarantee Texas would not have 27% liberals or anything close to that. Probably more like 21 or 22%, if that.

The number of self-identified conservatives in Texas would almost certainly be 40% or above. That's the dividing line for currently out of reach. I always have to laugh when Rachel Maddow or other gullible types tout flimsy state polls in states that always feature 40+% self-identified conservatives. They have never studied the numbers or the trends so anything sounds cute and possible to them.

Of course, the state has been off the table in terms of exit polls so I am mostly estimating. In the near future I'm sure there will be statewide exit polls in the state as it moves closer to level. Recently the only thing we've had from Texas is primary exit polls.

The problem in Texas is participation. The raw numbers of likely Democratic leaning blocks are sufficient, but they aren't registered and don't turn out dependably even if they are registered. Whites and older higher income Texans dominate the ballot box while blacks, Hispanics and naturalized citizens have been badly lagging their true numbers.

We needed to be pushing registration everywhere while Trump's approval rating was lowest. I managed to register three young people here in Miami, one I met at the golf course and two who did work on my home. They expressed anti-Trump sentiment but when I asked if they were registered they said no. I helped them get registered and I'm confident they will follow through.

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