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Can The Moron pardon Manafort? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Feb 2018 OP
He can pardon anyone charged with a federal crime, I believe. LonePirate Feb 2018 #1
But I think that if it can be determined that Trump was avebury Feb 2018 #3
I think not. But I almost wish he would try.. dchill Feb 2018 #2
He can pardon anybody as long as the crime is federal. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #4
Yes, for Federal crimes GP6971 Feb 2018 #5
He probably can, but it won't help much... tinrobot Feb 2018 #6
He can man-pardon him Blue Owl Feb 2018 #7
He can. H2O Man Feb 2018 #8

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
1. He can pardon anyone charged with a federal crime, I believe.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:14 PM
Feb 2018

Accepting the pardon is an admission of guilt, however. Plus, the pardoned can still be called to testify against others and that guilty acceptance of the pardon can impact the testimony.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
3. But I think that if it can be determined that Trump was
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:17 PM
Feb 2018

involved with a criminal act with Manafort the pardon becomes problematic for Trump (particularly if the pardon becomes an attempt to interfere with an ongoing investigation).

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
4. He can pardon anybody as long as the crime is federal.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:18 PM
Feb 2018

However, the NY AG, Eric Schneidermann, is said to be working with Mueller regarding NY State financial crimes (probably money laundering), which Trump can't pardon.

GP6971

(31,166 posts)
5. Yes, for Federal crimes
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:19 PM
Feb 2018

but not state. Big disadvantage...by accepting a pardon they forfeit their right to pleading the 5th.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
6. He probably can, but it won't help much...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:23 PM
Feb 2018

It won't help Manafort because he'll just be charged with additional crimes in New York state.

It won't help the moron because so many others have already flipped.

There's also legal trouble in store if the moron issues pardons in order to save himself. That could be considered obstruction.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
8. He can.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 10:26 PM
Feb 2018

However, if he did so at this time, while it would benefit Manafort, it would do serious damage to Trump. (If he had very early on, it would not have done nearly as much harm as it would at this late hour.)

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