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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 07:29 PM Feb 2018

Does Putin Fear Clinton Because She Is Not Afraid to Call Genocide What It Is?

Here is a link to what Hillary Clinton was doing in 1999:

Hillary Rodham Clinton called the refugees' stories "extremely disturbing," saying they brought up images that hadn't been seen in Europe since World War II.

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NATO accuses the Yugoslav army and Serb special police of conducting a campaign of "ethnic cleansing" against Kosovo's Albanian population.

Mrs. Clinton said the stories echoed images of the Nazi era, as depicted by films like "Schindler's List" or "Sophie's Choice."

"Think about what that means -- to be driving people from their homes, separating them from their families, loading them on trains," she said.


http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9905/14/kosovo.refugees/

According to one source, Vladimir Putin was not amused by her attempts to stop fellow Slavs from conducting an ethnic cleansing:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/03/putin_s_crimea_revenge_ever_since_the_u_s_bombed_kosovo_in_1999_putin_has.html

On March 24, 1999, Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov was on his way to Washington when he got word that NATO had begun bombing Kosovo. He ordered his plane turned around. A few hours later, he landed in a Moscow that was reeling from the insult of not being consulted. Russians had only a vague idea of what Kosovo was but a very strong concept of Serbia being a land of fellow Eastern Orthodox Slavs and of Yugoslavia being a rightful part of Moscow's sphere of influence. Not being consulted—or even, apparently, warned—sent the very clear message that the U.S. had decided it now presided over a unipolar world. There was no longer even the pretense of recognizing Russia's fading-superpower status: President Bill Clinton had chosen not to wait the few hours it would have taken for Primakov to land in Washington, allowing him to save face by at least pretending to have been in on the conversation.

From this point on, Russian President Boris Yeltsin's administration, already weak and embattled, would be unable to justify its friendly, perennially de-escalating posture toward the West. Anti-American feelings ran so high you would have thought the U.S. were bombing Russia. By turning his plane around, Primakov had endeared himself to the nationalist opposition and turned his back on Yeltsin. The liberals in Moscow were in a panic. The nationalists were mobilizing not only politically but also militarily: Men lined up outside the Yugoslav Embassy in Moscow to sign up to volunteer to defend Serbia.

The mood I found in Belgrade matched Moscow's perfectly. The country was mobilizing in support of its nationalist leader, Slobodan Milosevic. The few groups and people who continued to oppose him grew more marginalized and embattled by the day. They also grew increasingly paranoid, which paralyzed them. A daily concert in the center of town was literally drumming up support for the war effort, which had acquired the proud status of a defense effort—against the Americans, no less. A popular Russian rock group previously known as pro-Western came to play. When a young Serb opposition activist of my acquaintance got his draft notice, he readily donned the uniform: He did not want anyone to think anti-Milosevic activists were unpatriotic.

When I returned to Moscow in mid-May, the liberals' panic and the nationalists' fervor had subsided, but I found signs of the nationalists' newfound strength—and wrote my final dispatch about that. And then history followed its changed course. In August, Yeltsin anointed as his successor, a virtual unknown named Vladimir Putin. Within a few weeks, Putin became spectacularly popular by launching a new war in Chechnya. Politicians formerly known as liberals praised the Russian army for its performance there; one said it was “regaining its dignity.” He did not mention Kosovo, but he was referring to the general sense of humiliation that had stayed with Russians since the spring.


It can't have helped that under Bill Clinton, the CIA blamed the Serbian for 90% of the atrocities and all of the attempts to commit genocide in the Bosnian war:

In what is believed to be the most comprehensive United States assessment of atrocities in Bosnia, the Central Intelligence Agency has concluded that 90 percent of the acts of "ethnic cleansing" were carried out by Serbs and that leading Serbian politicians almost certainly played a role in the crimes.

The C.I.A. report, based on aerial photography and what one senior official called "an enormous amount of precise technical analysis," also concludes that while war crimes were by no means committed exclusively by Serbs, they were the only party involved in a systematic attempt to eliminate all traces of other ethnic groups from their territory.


http://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/18/world/us-clashes-with-russia-over-bosnia.html

Certainly, Putin fears Clinton. Check out his reaction to some rare election losses in Russia in 2011:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/world/europe/putin-accuses-clinton-of-instigating-russian-protests.html

Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin accused Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday of inciting unrest in Russia, as he grappled with the prospect of large-scale political protest for the first time in his more than decade-long rule.

In a rare personal accusation, Mr. Putin said Mrs. Clinton had sent “a signal” to “some actors in our country” after Sunday’s parliamentary elections, which were condemned as fraudulent by both international and Russian observers. Anger over the elections prompted a demonstration in which thousands chanted “Putin is a thief” and “Russia without Putin,” a development that has deeply unnerved the Kremlin.

Speaking to political allies as he announced the formation of his presidential campaign, Mr. Putin said that hundreds of millions of dollars in “foreign money” was being used to influence Russian politics, and that Mrs. Clinton had personally spurred protesters to action. The comments indicate a breakdown in the Obama administration’s sputtering effort to “reset” the relationship between the United States and Russia.


To the would be Hitler of Russia, Herr Putin, who has resolved to make Russia as great as Germany was under the Nazis, Hillary Clinton was an obstacle in his path. She had proven that she was not afraid to call a genocide a genocide and to shine a spotlight on war crimes for all the world to see. Putin could not have Hillary Clinton in the White House, not if he intended to take back all the countries that once made up the USSR. No, he needed a weak willed puppet, someone without Clinton's intelligence, compassion, spine and balls. So, he found Trump. Who will call a mass shooting of school kids "democracy in action" and a genocide "foreign aid" if you pay him enough money.

Remember, Bill's big regret was not listening to Hillary when she told him that he should intervene in Rwanda. Had she been president the US would have acted in Rwanda. Under Trump, the defenseless are up for sale. Take everything that Trump has done and cost us in this country and magnify it five fold and you will come up with what could happen to those in third world countries if we do not toss him out on his lily white over fed ass.

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Cha

(297,323 posts)
4. He did FEAR Hillary.. that's why he
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 07:46 PM
Feb 2018

the Russians HACKED away.. to get his Stooge in and Hillary OUT.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
5. He feared what she would do to his global gameplan.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 07:48 PM
Feb 2018

He did fear his losses should she be in power.

Sh'd have squeezed him with sanctions until he'd have been stripped of power & the Russian people would have their once free society back.

Putin feared the ass kickin he'd have gotten from a President Hillary Clinton.

Human rights is her schtick and she despises the brutal hold dictators keep on humanity.

Yes. He feared her power.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. So agree with you. Add this to the
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 08:07 PM
Feb 2018

conversation,she knew where the real Shiteholes are and how Putin was working to use those for his advantage and wealth.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
10. Yup. She knew & she walked thru fire in 2016 just to see that human rights became global right.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 08:13 PM
Feb 2018

Putin would have pissed his pants in fear had she 'won' the count on Nov 8, 2016.

That is why he did whatever it took to stop her.

Mueller will now kick Putin's entire game to bits.
Putin will now end up far worse off in the end.



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. And Koch Industries were spending
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 08:19 PM
Feb 2018

hundreds of millions to protect their personal investments from the worker class via the Tax Code they knew Hillary apposed.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
2. Her wisdom was far to serious & too deep for Social Media to grasp.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 07:39 PM
Feb 2018

Now they are aghast in what our US has become.

Fools should have read her platform from day 1.
She told this country everything they needed to know.
But MSM & Social Media "likes" were the really urgent mind fuck of the day, living in their small world, staring at their social media page on a glass screen.
Meanwhile, Putin got his guy in our WH.

Next time pay the fk attention.

"Had she been president the US would have acted in Rwanda. Under Trump, the defenseless are up for sale.
Take everything that Trump has done and cost us in this country and magnify it five fold and you will come up with what could happen to those in third world countries if we do not toss him out on his lily white over fed ass."


Pitiful humiliation for America, who so many look to for an assist

Fools sold out those nations for a bunch of "likes"

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
7. Yes, anybody can be at the top of the page with enough likes.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 07:53 PM
Feb 2018

One can indeed purchase popularity.
Its all about money & media afterall.


Great informative post
Thanks

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
12. His biggest fear should be anyone (besides Trump) getting back in power.
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 10:03 PM
Feb 2018

Jeb Bush would tear him a new one at this point. The non Russian aligned GOP (what is left of it) and the Democrats would probably find something to agree about in their disdain for Russia.

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