Would those of you who think Gillibrand should not be re-elected....

[LAS14]

...because of her actions re Franken, please explain to me why she is the target, and not any of the other 31 dems who signed on to ask that he resign?

I'm curious. I'm not assuming there are no reasons.

[LexVegas]

1. She is a woman. nt

[still_one]

38. Can you back that up? Your statement means that you dont believe the

Motivation for those folks was because they believe Franken wasn’t given the hearing he asked for, and they view Senator Gillibrand, as the person who Led the charge calling for Franken’s resignation, as circumventing that process

[left-of-center2012]

40. I knew that was going to be a response.

When I posted some weeks ago that I didn't think Oprah was a good candidate for President
I was told I'm sexist and racist.

[leftstreet]

2. She got out in front of it. Have the others ever spoken?

I know they signed a letter

Sounds to me like she wanted to be the spokesperson for it

[pressbox69]

3. I'm okay with her being re-elected

but she can take a flying leap if she's thinking about our White House in 2020.

[sarah FAILIN]

10. This is where I am

If her constituents are ok with it, that is on them. Not for the big race though.

[Tatiana]

4. Actually, I cast aspersions on the senior Senator from NY too.

Who I'm sure was her partner in crime and encouraged her to spearhead the effort to force Franken out so his hands wouldn't get dirty.

She's an idiot, but he's the real power behind everyone turning on Franken, IMHO.

How I long for the days of Harry Reid.

[Vinnie From Indy]

5. She led the charge and was the 1st Dem Senator to demand Franken's Resignation

eom

[jrthin]

7. Exactly. nt

[tammywammy]

33. You realize 16 Senators coordinated the calls to step down

They purposefully chose Gillibrand to go first because of her long term stance against sexual harassment.

[yallerdawg]

6. She bashed a Democrat (Bill Clinton or Al Franken, your pick or both)...

and we don't bash Democrats!

[still_one]

12. But the Senator had no problem campaigning with Bill Clinton when it served her

purpose

It will be the people of NY who decide who their Senators are

[yallerdawg]

25. Then, in the last few months, everything changed.

"Me, too" became "Time's up" and that means no more free passes.

NO MORE FREE PASSES.

"I stand with Gillibrand."

[still_one]

34. I dont stand for Gillibrand, I stand for women not to take any abuse from anyone. It will be those

live in in NY who decide if they want her to be their Senator

I have no doubt she will be re-elected Senator.

However, if she decides to run for President, I don’t think she stands a chance

[yallerdawg]

35. I don't stand "for" Gillibrand, either.

I stand with her.

[still_one]

39. Appreciate the correction for my oversight. Thanks

[still_one]

8. I think that is up to the people in NY, but the reason Gillibrand is getting the most flack is

because she decided to make it her crusade by taking the lead,. Problem is, Franken was not given a chance, and she led the lynch mob

[demmiblue]

9. I think you already know the reason(s), but simply cannot accept the fact that...

people disagree with you.

[LAS14]

16. What opinion of mine are people disagreeing with? And, no...

... I don't know the reasons. Or I wouldn't have asked.

[demmiblue]

20. Lol... sure. You have spent a lot of energy on this, perhaps you should just let it go. n/t

[LAS14]

28. How much energy have I spent? Documentation? On the other hand...

... I don't mind spending energy trying to find out things.

[NCTraveler]

11. I love the Gillibrand is going to have a very bad week op.

The one that references Russians. One person who called for Franken to resign was also assisted by Russians in their failed campaign. Yet that person was not mentioned as going to be having a bad week.

It's extremely transparent.

[LexVegas]

15. You mean that person that gets a bunch of NRA money? nt

[NCTraveler]

19. Possibly. I haven't seen that yet.

I'm talking about the person who sided with Republicans to block a pathway to citizenship for millions.

Wait. Never mind. I saw where he got NRA money. Also takes PAC money while claiming he doesn't.

[LexVegas]

22. Yeah, we're talking about the same person.

[IphengeniaBlumgarten]

13. ok with her as senator but not as presidential candidate...

she has demonstrated very poor judgement in leading the charge against franken. her ambition got in the way of her judgement.

[brush]

32. My feelings exactly.

[Pathwalker]

14. Why ass*u*me I'm NOT angry at my 2 senators,

who jumped on that bandwagon, and that they weren't notified of my anger? They were the ones I targeted.

[Egnever]

17. As if the reasons have not been pointed out hundreds of times already.

[LAS14]

24. OK. Give me a link. Why her and NOT the other 31? That's the question. nt

[samir.g]

18. She threw Franken under the bus to raise her profile for 2020

[LAS14]

21. But what about the other 31? nt

[samir.g]

27. They are culpable, but she led the charge. She was the driving force.

[Eliot Rosewater]

23. A certain group of folks will attack ANY sitting democrat, for reasons I cant go into

but should be obvious.

She did what she did, her motive was pure from a political and decency stand point and if it turns out she was manipulated by russians, so be it, many others were as well.

I am the biggest Franken fan here but some are pretending to be only so they can attack Kirsten.

Any attack of any democrat at this point MUST be seen as suspicious. And no, what she did was NOT attack Al, she did what she thought had to be done at the time.

[brush]

36. I usually agree with your posts but this one is bs. Gillibrand gullibly fell for the repug hit job..

and led the charge to demand that Franken resign without giving him a chance for a Senate hearing.

She led the charge in attacking a fellow Democrat.

And she recently doubled down on not holding her fire before a hearing by saying on "The View" that Franken was "entitled to a hearing but not to my silence".

What kind of crap is that?

She clearly sees it as all about herself and making it her signature issue to increase her profile for 2020, not whether Tweeden or any of the other so-called victims were truthful in their accusations, or for that matter, whether Franken was being jobbed or not, which btw, the "Newsweek" story just verified.

She deserves all the flack she getting.

[WhiteTara]

26. I definitely think she should be re-elected

because she will be who her constituents want. I just don't think she should run for president.

edited to add: she has said she will serve her full term as senator if elected and I believe her.

[TheCowsCameHome]

29. That's entirely up to the voters in NY.

What they do is none of my concern.

If she tries to go national at some point, then it's a different story.

[dalton99a]

31. +1

[Ken Burch]

30. She seems to have taken the lead on that.

It's fair to ask if they would have all signed and forced AL out if she hadn't gone to the mat on this.

A lot of people are bummed that a fighting progressive has been forced out and replaced by...well, we really can't judge what his replacement is about on things as yet-it will be years before that replacement has a major impact on anything or becomes a public voice for any particular cause or set of convictions.

That's what I'd say the focus on Gillibrand's role here has been about.

[hlthe2b]

37. I don't think she should lose her seat/NOT be reelected. But I do hope she learns

to avoid such rushes to judgement and binary thinking. I think politicos can make mistakes but learn from them.

Why is she targeted? She led the charge, plain and simple. Plenty were ready to join her, both male and female Senators, but she became the face of the movement through all her media appearances. She led and leaders do have to justify their actions. Should the others who joined her in demanding Franken resign likewise need to answer for their rush to judgement and failure to recognize that not all sexual misbehavior is equivalent in terms of severity, consequences, or (hopefully) how we handle the aftermath? Absolutely.

Ultimately, my opinion matters not to her future in NY and I trust her constituents to make those judgements. Would I vote for her in a Democratic Presidential primary if held today? Depending on who was competing, VERY UNLIKELY, but I might change my mind in the future.