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pbmus

(12,422 posts)
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:52 PM Feb 2018

Neil Gorsuch holds key vote in labor union fee case

President Trump-appointed Neil Gorsuch holds the key vote in a case to be heard next week over whether public-sector unions should require people who don't want to be union members to pay for collective bargaining, the AP reports.

Why it matters: Unions are major financial backers of Democratic candidates and causes across the country, and a rebuke from Gorsuch would deal a crushing blow to organized labor. Even though Trump overwhelmingly won support from white working-class voters, he had expressed support for the right-to-work movement. Per Politico, his administration sides with the plaintiff who's challenging the "fair-share fees." The Supreme Court had reached a 4-4 deadlock in 2016 on the issue following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia.

https://www.axios.com/neil-gorsuch-holds-key-vote-labor-union-fee-case-ac05dcdb-c4b3-45b3-94b5-d21761f0ea97.html?

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Neil Gorsuch holds key vote in labor union fee case (Original Post) pbmus Feb 2018 OP
The right doesn't want the government picking winners and losers when it comes to businesses Fullduplexxx Feb 2018 #1
A lot of union members don't like their unions and resent the fees marylandblue Feb 2018 #2
???????????????????? n/t kacekwl Feb 2018 #3
Have you ever been a member of a union? marylandblue Feb 2018 #4
I believe you can vote kacekwl Feb 2018 #5
We voted in new leadership, which was worse than the old leadership marylandblue Feb 2018 #6
Do we really have to guess how this one goes? nolabels Feb 2018 #7

Fullduplexxx

(7,865 posts)
1. The right doesn't want the government picking winners and losers when it comes to businesses
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:57 PM
Feb 2018

Unless of course the businesses is Union.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. Have you ever been a member of a union?
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 06:47 PM
Feb 2018

I have. I was even quite active in one. Can't say it helped me much, and several times it hurt workers. I am aware of many other members who felt that way or even worse, absolutely hated the union.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
5. I believe you can vote
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 08:48 PM
Feb 2018

to dissolve the union or vote in new leadership if the majority of members don't feel they are represented fairly.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. We voted in new leadership, which was worse than the old leadership
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:01 PM
Feb 2018

And good luck trying to organize a decertification against a bunch of people who have a vested interested in making sure you don't decertify and are willing to use nasty even illegal tactics against you. Union-busting managements have nothing on entrenched unions.

I am not totally anti-union myself. Well run unions have their place. But I can understand people who are. The key thing for Democrats to remember is that "union" does not nrcessarily equal "working class."

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
7. Do we really have to guess how this one goes?
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:27 PM
Feb 2018

I have been in a union for twenty-five years of my forty working in the trucking industry. Jimmy Carter deregulated the trucking industry and now with hours on job totaled, long-haul drivers often get paid below minimum wage.

It is this idea of a panacea, that government is going to do something good for you if you are in some kind of minority group and are under-served by it. Most of the time they do not do that. The common practice it to gut whatever it is and leave it to bleed out

I would expect no less from whatever part of the government this next action takes place in.

Government works for the people that pay them, not the people they govern over, it's just common sense and or mathematics

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