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Breaking News: The Pennsylvania Supreme Court just issued a new congressional map for 2018 election (Original Post) sunonmars Feb 2018 OP
K&R PatSeg Feb 2018 #1
K&R2 lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #44
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Feb 2018 #2
K&R JDC Feb 2018 #3
Did they pick one that was presented or make their own Johnny2X2X Feb 2018 #4
Pacourts.us is having heavy traffic...trying to load to see maps. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #8
Cue the squealing from Repukes. n/t n2doc Feb 2018 #5
Potentially great news awesomerwb1 Feb 2018 #6
Excellent!!! Thanks, Sun!! nt Leghorn21 Feb 2018 #7
map from twitter account in OP FarCenter Feb 2018 #9
current map since 2013 from wiki FarCenter Feb 2018 #11
WOW, a map that doesn't look like a jigsaw puzzlr... BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #13
Districts 9 and 10 of the current map -- just shameless. Tatiana Feb 2018 #15
How about 6 and 7? 7 doesn't even appear to be contigous, although it might follow a highway FarCenter Feb 2018 #17
7 too! Good Lord. Tatiana Feb 2018 #18
Yeah, District 7 is in a class by itself gratuitous Feb 2018 #23
It WAS called "Goofy kicking Donald Duck" Fritz Walter Feb 2018 #32
In SC Jim Clyburn is the only Dem out of 7 seats SCantiGOP Feb 2018 #26
I made a gif to see the differences. Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2018 #24
Thanks! NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #33
Governor Wolf's proposal to the Supreme Court FarCenter Feb 2018 #20
Here are the 7 proposed maps for Pennsylvania's congressional districts FarCenter Feb 2018 #21
Saner district mapping is likely to result in a saner country GeoWilliam750 Feb 2018 #35
The 14th Congressional District John1956PA Feb 2018 #10
Yeah Gothmog Feb 2018 #12
K&R... spanone Feb 2018 #14
Ooh, this should make things more competitive IronLionZion Feb 2018 #16
+100 Repukes luv competition except for their jobs! bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #31
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Iliyah Feb 2018 #19
Repubs having a major tantrum here orangecrush Feb 2018 #22
The 18th district HootieMcBoob Feb 2018 #25
I think the March 13 special election is for the currently-drawn 18th. John1956PA Feb 2018 #27
That makes sense n/t HootieMcBoob Feb 2018 #29
R's say they're going to appeal to a Federal Court. pnwmom Feb 2018 #28
Figures Rebl2 Feb 2018 #34
It was the PA Supreme Court that imposed the map BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #41
We're discussing the new map in this thread DeminPennswoods Feb 2018 #30
This is winning RainCaster Feb 2018 #36
That's below the belt. Turbineguy Feb 2018 #37
PA Governor Wolf issued a directive to move to paper audit trail BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #38
this is a great victory for democracy! hope this standard spreads nationwide Takket Feb 2018 #39
Just to be clear...this does NOT affect the PA-18 (Conor Lamb) race next month. brooklynite Feb 2018 #40
wailing and gnashing of teeth from the GOP in 3, 2, 1..... n/t gay texan Feb 2018 #42
Oh it's already happening durablend Feb 2018 #43

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
4. Did they pick one that was presented or make their own
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:51 PM
Feb 2018

Making their own would be most fair, but would make a further court battle possible. Taking one of the options presented would cause the least kick back.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
15. Districts 9 and 10 of the current map -- just shameless.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:04 PM
Feb 2018

Thank goodness we still have some rational people at the highest levels of our judicial system.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
26. In SC Jim Clyburn is the only Dem out of 7 seats
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 05:01 PM
Feb 2018

His district includes downtown Charleston on the coast and extends to downtown Columbia in the geographic center of the state.
About 1/3 of our voters are non-white, so a random plan should create 2-3 minority seats. But by packing AA voters in one district they all but assure the GOP of winning the other 6 districts.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
33. Thanks!
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 06:05 PM
Feb 2018

That's quite a difference.

Hopefully, Democrats can pick up a few seats because it's not gerrymandered to hell anymore

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
21. Here are the 7 proposed maps for Pennsylvania's congressional districts
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:36 PM
Feb 2018
http://lancasteronline.com/news/pennsylvania/here-are-the-proposed-maps-for-pennsylvania-s-congressional-districts/article_47f6b37e-1342-11e8-9a51-bb07e30711af.html

The new Supreme Court map is different from all of them. E.G. None of the proposals have Franklin and Adams in the same district, but York in a different district.

John1956PA

(2,655 posts)
10. The 14th Congressional District
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:58 PM
Feb 2018

The 14th Congressional District shown in the southwest corner is the subject of a currently hotly contested special election.

On edit: The March 13 special election is for the 18th Congressional District shown in the current gerrymandered map. Most of the area covered in the current 18th district will be contained by the 14th district of the new map which will apply to the May 15 primary races and the November 6 general election.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
19. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:24 PM
Feb 2018

I know the GOPer's are fuming. LOL . . . . . .

I can hear them now. We are the VICTIMs. Why you hate ussssssssssssssssssssssss. It's HRC and Obama's fault!

Expect them to cheat and try to steal 2018.

HootieMcBoob

(3,823 posts)
25. The 18th district
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:57 PM
Feb 2018

Looks like the 18th district will be pretty much just the city of Pittsburgh. That puts the special election in a whole new light. The city of Pittsburgh is not in the 18th at all as it’s cure drawn.

John1956PA

(2,655 posts)
27. I think the March 13 special election is for the currently-drawn 18th.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 05:07 PM
Feb 2018

I am thinking that, regardless of whether Regardless Lamb or Saccone wins on March 13, they will gain their respective parties' nominations in the May 15 primary for the 14th district.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
28. R's say they're going to appeal to a Federal Court.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 05:13 PM
Feb 2018


Republican lawmakers say they will swiftly ask federal judges to block any new map.

Rebl2

(13,523 posts)
34. Figures
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 06:06 PM
Feb 2018

I heard this morning if the court approved their own map, they would take it to a higher court.

BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
41. It was the PA Supreme Court that imposed the map
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:20 PM
Feb 2018

so there is no other "higher court". The GOP is trying to take it to the federal courts, where they were already rebuffed by the SCOTUS earlier this month because this was a PA state Constitution issue (the current map violated the state Constitution that had explicit provisions for how the maps should be drawn - e.g., "compact", "contiguous", etc) and thus should not necessarily be under federal jurisdiction ("states rights" ), because "states" decide on and set up their own voting districts.

BumRushDaShow

(129,106 posts)
38. PA Governor Wolf issued a directive to move to paper audit trail
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:36 PM
Feb 2018

as systems are being updated over the next couple years....

02/09/2018

Wolf Administration Directs that New Voting Systems in the Commonwealth Provide Paper Record


Harrisburg, PA – The Wolf administration is taking steps to increase the security and auditability of all voting systems used in the commonwealth.

Acting Secretary of State Robert Torres today issued a directive that all commonwealth voting systems purchased from February 9, 2018, forward must employ a voter-verifiable paper ballot or paper record of votes cast.

“This directive will ensure that the next generation of the commonwealth’s voting systems conforms to enhanced standards of resiliency, auditability and security,” Secretary Torres said. “The current voting equipment in counties works and can be audited. But new voting machines with paper ballots or voter-verifiable paper backup will improve auditability and augment security.”
Over the next few years, Pennsylvania’s counties will replace much of their aging voting equipment. This directive informs them of the specifications they must consider when purchasing new voting equipment. The department wants to be sure counties move to voting systems that meet their needs for accessibility and security and make audits easier."

A directive requiring a paper record of voting is necessary because:

  • It is in line with modern equipment offered by voting system manufacturers;

  • It will allow counties to expand their auditing practices. Auditing of voting equipment is an essential part of guaranteeing a system’s integrity and accuracy.

  • It will enable compliance, if future legislation requiring a paper record is enacted at the state or federal level; and

  • It will ensure that Pennsylvania’s voting system can achieve resilience by enhancing its ability to withstand and recover more rapidly from disruptions.


  • “We want to be proactive and replace older voting systems before their hardware and software become obsolete. This directive is a first step in that modernization effort. We will continue to work closely with the General Assembly and county officials to implement reforms that enhance the accessibility and integrity of Pennsylvania’s elections,” Secretary Torres said.
    This directive does not preclude a county from purchasing equipment that supports and maintains a county’s current voting system for as long as that system is certified for use in the commonwealth."

    http://www.media.pa.gov/Pages/State-Details.aspx?newsid=261
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