Love getting into arguments over Facebook with family in the morning before work

[vercetti2021]

Jesus Christ...I can't say enough how many times I rolled my eyes into my skull. My cousin who is much older than me...like 30 years older has been slamming those poor kids from Parkland as "Pawns of the left and controlled by the left." Course that got me going and I said. Do you blame them for being pissed off? Their friends and family were just killed by a psycho with a semi assault rifle and you say they are pawns? Of course she followed up saying it isn't an assault rifle and actually tried to compare an AR-15 to a fucking baseball bat...I honestly got so sick of it I just quit responding. I bit my tongue so fucking hard I'm surprised I didn't bite it off completely.

What we deal with people...what we gotta fucking deal with. People in serious denial and brainwashed by Faux News...of course which she quoted as well.

[Ilsa]

1. It's difficult to maintain an honest debate

against willful ignorance.

Sorry about your family member.

[vercetti2021]

10. Me too

I can't believe sometimes I came from a racist conservative aka my father. No joke...every time I'm around him, he will use every derogatory name around me just to piss me off.

[hlthe2b]

2. and yet again a key reason I refuse to be on Facebook.

That would tie my stomach up in knots all day. ugggh

[vercetti2021]

9. I only use it to talk to family and friends

She happened to pop up on my feed on a CNN post. I usually ignore her posts, but attacking those kids got me going.

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. I know it's hard, but don't waster your breath (fingers?) - they are brainwashed.

There is no way to reach the trumpers.

I have two to deal with - my brother, and my younger son in law. I've hidden both their feeds on FB and there is a no politics rule when we speak or get together - they are both in a political wasteland with no hope of rescue.

[vercetti2021]

8. It is hard

I even went out of my way to defend her and tell others she isn't a troll. She just has a warped mixed view on reality. But funny I get attacked by other rapid tRumpers and she actually takes their side over her own family. Sick.

[NRaleighLiberal]

13. yep - it's rough out there. A few years ago I ended up getting twitter attacked by Rush's brother

and loads of Rushbots.

What I learned is that twitter has the attention span of a microsecond - I just shut the site, went to bed, by the next day...all done.

The issue is what we don't even know who or what we are dealing with most of the time.

I've gone to using social networking for only very specific things related to my current occupation - other than that, and seeing family pic stuff from our girls - nada.

[vercetti2021]

14. And it was Facebook...

I don't use Twitter. I refuse to since I'd be on it going after every con and bot I'd see like my mother does. Yeah she's super bleeding heart and will not stop going after people. I know where to stop, she doesn't. She'll continue on. But I use Facebook for family and friends. Mean after that my aunt sent me a message and asked me why I would waste time with her.

Because of those kids...that's why. Attack me, my morals, my lifestyle, and my views, I do not care. But don't attack those poor teenagers.

[NRaleighLiberal]

15. well hang in there my friend - these are really trying times - just hoping we can come out the

other end of things with some dignity left for our country - and some peace of mind and optimism for all of us.

[vercetti2021]

16. Well the next group of youngsters will lead it hopefully

Like those in Parkland. I'm not sure if I can really qualify myself as a youngster since I've been able to vote for 10 years now

[NRaleighLiberal]

18. take it from this 62 year old dude - things go in cycles -

this one is particularly nasty. But - yes, hope in youth is always worth it!

[vercetti2021]

19. I'll claim this cycle is the worst

2018 and 2020 are going to be the biggest years for the new generation. My cousin is one of them he just turned 18 this past month and he is a very hardcore liberal and a very intelligent kid.

[Freddie]

4. Don't waste your time

There's no reaching some people. I don't unfriend 2 of them because it's eye-opening to see how they think (or not). One of them is an old BF from a million years ago. I was crazy about him then, every time I see his posts I'm grateful he dumped me or we certainly would have been another divorce statistic.

[vercetti2021]

6. Yeah...

It's just...I can't help it. She knows my stance and the majority of her family is extremely progressive. So I know it drives her insane when we all get after her for the twisted view she has on reality.

[mnhtnbb]

5. I've been reading a well known and recommended book about anger management

because I am going through a divorce after 32 years of marriage. I left because I was angry all the time at being disrespected. So angry that it hurt. Everything was always about him. He'd say we had to come to mutual agreement about ....but what he meant was that I had to agree to what he wanted.
No matter what I advised or warned against, he'd do whatever he wanted. I just couldn't participate in that anymore.

There are a lot of parallels for us progressives in what is going on with the right wing and their support of Trump, let alone the actions of Trump himself.
It makes me furious to see the destruction of this country and fundamental principles of democracy, along with the obsession with guns. The country
has become sick. Really sick. It is no wonder following politics is making so many of us angry all the time, especially when trying to deal with
family members or long time friends who are Trump supporters or apologists.

The last option of dealing with anger is to either adapt or let the relationship go. You cannot change other people. There are all kinds of studies
to show that when people of one political persuasion are confronted with facts that fly in the face of their beliefs, they just dig in harder. They project.
Your cousin has allowed herself to become brainwashed by Fox, so it's only natural that she believes someone who doesn't agree with her
is a "pawn". She is the pawn and she is projecting. But you aren't going to win. You have to either adapt if you value and want to keep
the relationship, or let it go.


I recommend the book: When Anger Hurts: Quieting the Storm Within by Matthew McKay, PhD, Peter D. Roger, PhD, Judith McKay, RN

[vercetti2021]

7. Thank you

I agree with what you're saying, she is a pawn and yet she calls others this. Young kids that have gone through trauma that will live with them forever. I will check into this book at the library and I'm sorry about your marriage, I'm glad you're getting out of that type of situation.

Much love dear.

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. Better to just ignore their lame B.S. That drives them round the bend

In my experience, if they're ignored long enough, they simply give up. Either that or they unfriend you.

[vercetti2021]

12. Unfriend me then...

I learned that a lot of her own family unfriended her because of how batty she's become. She is part of the Faux Cult sadly.

[oberliner]

17. I don't really understand the "pawns of the left" argument

What does your cousin mean by that?

[vercetti2021]

21. What she means by that is a fact these kids are speaking their mind

She's upset that they're using their outrage against the NRA, tRump, and the list goes on. She's upset because they are speaking their mind and legitimately mad because their friends were killed. She's one of those people that believes the left are using these kids as a political tool to get some type of gun laws passed.

And mind you I had to convince her I'm one of those fucking people that is sick of it and I'm not a pawn I'm a 27 year old man and I'm not a pawn. I think for myself and I think the right is a bunch of unhinged psychopath's. But it isn't hard to figure that out anyway

[politicaljunkie41910]

20. As someone with a heart issue who sometimes gets panic attacks when my blood pressure

rises too quickly, I'd suggest you avoid 'Facebook with Family in the morning', since it could ruin your whole day. Particularly when you know the people and their views are likely to clash with your own. As a Facebook stockholder, I thank you for your time spent there, but not at the expense of ruining the rest of your day and potentially your health. Have a good rest of the day.

[vercetti2021]

22. You're welcome

But normally I avoid her posts. But attacking those teenagers for being pawns to the left just irked the shit out of me.

Much love

[StarlightGold]

23. Now, I just ignore them.

I realized that it is not worth it to try and get through to them. I don't even acknowledge their hateful opinions, etc. and continue to concentrate on making myself a better, more involved person. Involved in a political way, so we get results. Like the upcoming Blue Tsunami that's going to crash our shores in November.