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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDonald Trump IS Our Henry VIII.
Like it or not Trump is as evil as Henry VIII. No he is not a king, but he believes he is one. And we are stuck with him for now.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Probably a mix of both. Nero for the cowardice, Caligula for the sex addiction.
Many parallels between the Roman and American empires, nowadays.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...he was a monster, yes...but he was also smart, an efficient executive, saw further than his advisors, and was personally brave--he personally led two English invasions of France, and saw combat. He wrote books on theology and composed music. Trump couldn't hold his codpiece...
CatMor
(6,212 posts)He surely was a monster. The one really great thing he did was father Elizabeth I.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)He started out with great momentum.
Something happened to him.
Was it the fall
At a joust that caused him to be
unconscious for hours?
Was it a progressive physical disease.
Was he mental?
With the reformation Henry changed the world..
Maggot couldn't hold a candle to him..
CatMor
(6,212 posts)sounds alot like trump.
TygrBright
(20,762 posts)For all his personal ugliness, matrimonial homicides, and institutionalized religious persecution, Henry VIII was actually a pretty competent head of state. He accomplished a lot as far as improving the middle class and merchant class influence in national policy and economic development, built up the country's naval defenses, chose a lot of highly competent (if nasty) advisors and ministers of State, improved the national finance and accounting system, and much more.
He actually left the *government* of England in very good shape. And with the exception of the religious persecutions and eliminations made "necessary" in the wake of his various matrimonial adventures (which had their root less in his personal concupiscience than in his obsessive drive to secure the dynastic line that began with his father's usurpation of the Plantagenet throne) he showed great restraint in using the vicious tools his father had created to crush the opposition that faced him after the invasion.
Let me be clear, I'm not an apologist for Henry VIII and certainly the last 15 years of his reign were as bad a shitshow as any Masterpiece Theater soap opera, between the tertiary syphilis symptoms and the increasing internal and external security threats.
But he was by NO means the childish incompetent surrounded by peurile, bumbling kleptocrats we are suffering under today.
historically,
Bright
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)I dont know what to believe anymore
Trump the VIII has done his job well, from that standpoint
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)Trump has always been a monster.
Moreover, Henry's monstrousness in later life may have been due to accumulated brain injuries. Trump has no such excuse.
dalton99a
(81,526 posts)Pretty atrocious asshole:
http://listverse.com/2017/09/18/10-insane-facts-about-emperor-commodus-left-out-of-gladiator/
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)That would be Trump if he could get away with it.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)The Law of 22 Prairial was the enabling act for the Terror. It is the law that turned Robespierre into an absolute tyrant...which is exactly what Trump wants to be.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)"It's good to be the king".
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Examples of true idiocracy at work.
Initech
(100,081 posts)aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)Especially since he seems to really like Mussolini and tries to emulate him.