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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 09:45 PM Feb 2018

Making the case of Treason against Donald J. Trump

In the attached excerpt form a very long article by James Risen, the author makes a convincing case, not for collusion, but for treason, against President* Donald John Trump. It was written a couple of days ago, and is only part one (with part two coming soon, the author says). I find this article compelling. I hope you do, too.

<snip>Most pundits in Washington now recoil at any suggestion that the Trump-Russia story is really about treason. They all want to say it’s about something else – what, they aren’t quite sure. They are afraid to use serious words. They are in the business of breaking down the Trump-Russia narrative into a long series of bite-sized, incremental stories in which the gravity of the overall case often gets lost. They seem to think that treason is too much of a conversation-stopper, that it interrupts the flow of cable television and Twitter. God forbid you might upset the right wing! (And the left wing, for that matter.)

But if a presidential candidate or his lieutenants secretly work with a foreign government that is a longtime adversary of the United States to manipulate and then win a presidential election, that is almost a textbook definition of treason.

In Article 3, Section 3, the U.S. Constitution states that “treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

Based on that provision in the Constitution, U.S. law – 18 U.S. Code § 2381 – states that “[w]hoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere” is guilty of treason. Those found guilty of this high crime “shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”<snip>

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/16/trump-russia-election-hacking-investigation/

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Making the case of Treason against Donald J. Trump (Original Post) louis c Feb 2018 OP
Treason. Several counts, and it includes many gop congressmen. lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #1
treason Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #5
Man, I definitely vote for this RandomAccess Feb 2018 #2
Treason. That's really what I want to see. Fucking Trrump convicted for Treason louis c Feb 2018 #3
Yeah, IF people are convinced RandomAccess Feb 2018 #4
That would be why Mueller indicted Russians first AwakeAtLast Feb 2018 #6
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #7

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,356 posts)
5. treason
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:19 AM
Feb 2018

Been calling it treason since, "Russia, if you're listening...".

Pundits apparently can't read the Constitution.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
3. Treason. That's really what I want to see. Fucking Trrump convicted for Treason
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:51 PM
Feb 2018

That would really change the country's political dynamic.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
4. Yeah, IF people are convinced
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 11:04 PM
Feb 2018

Sadly, Trump, Fox News et al have set it up so that none of their followers are going to believe it if that's what happens, and I fear violent repercussions.

However, based on this recent indictment -- all the details and info -- I think Mueller is aware of the tricky path he must traverse and will do his best to minimize ultra-partisan, low-information revolt with a wealth of "incontrovertible" evidence.

He's one smart cookie with a fabulous crew and we haven't seen any missteps yet.

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