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Brett Clarkson
... Here is a sampling ...
... 17 of my classmates are gone. Thats 17 futures, 17 children, and 17 friends stolen. But you're right, it always has to be about you. How silly of me to forget ...
... Students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas are pissed that Trump blamed their school shooting on the Russia investigation ...
... Congress thinks that Russia is scary? Wait till they meet the anger of the entire student body of Stoneman Douglas. They haven't seen anything yet ...
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-douglas-students-social-media-politicians-pundits-20180218-story.html
Leghorn21
(13,527 posts)malaise
(269,225 posts)samnsara
(17,650 posts)...they will never be the same!
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)At 14, girls can really do a lot.
By the way, it's Girl Scout cookie time.
I buy them even though I can't eat them just because I love the Girl Scout movement.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)They have parents and perhaps older siblings who are old enough to vote.
I'd sure hate to be a neighbor who had to defend voting republican this year.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)repercussions surrounding the Draft Cards in the Sixties,does it not.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)And I never regretted it for a moment, even 50 + years later.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Used it to start the BBQ coals.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)have to stick together.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Ironic as it seems,you and I have seen these events only with new faces and new vigor that we once had.
Delmette2.0
(4,174 posts)There is time to grieve later. Strike back at Trump and other politicians now.
I know they will never forget their friends, but this anger needs to be vented in the right direction and they are doing it.
BigmanPigman
(51,643 posts)his/her little finger than the fucking moron and all his spawn combined.
Dumb and Dumber advised their Big Daddy to go after the FBI last night at dinner. They are either incredibly stupid or feel they are so entitled and used to getting away with breaking every rule and law their entire lives and not having to face any consequences that they don't realize YOU DON'T ANTAGONIZE THE FBI . I vote for both....stupid and spoiled/entitled.
localroger
(3,634 posts)The entire student body of an affluent, highly rated high school has been radicalized. Unlike the Newtown victims they can express themselves well, unlike the Virginia Tech victims they aren't adults worried about careers, unlike the Pulse victims they aren't gay and unlike the Las Vegas victims they weren't being entertained. They were being in a place we forced them to be, which did all the stuff a school is supposed to do, and it still happened and all of those students are thinking that if this or that had been different it would be their tombstone being carved. And they are pissed.
It should be a pretty easy thing for them to make NRA money as toxic as botulism. Compelling articulate teenager in TV ad: "Candidate X took $Y from the NRA and 17 of my classmates died. I could have died. I was there. Do something about this. Elect candidate Z." Lather, rinse, repeat.
ms liberty
(8,611 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Time for some hope to begin springing up?
Whos gonna be the new Stephen o Cloyes?
Hope it turns out better than that one did
Not at all making light, btw:
I work in a grade school, and the young are truly the best hope we have, especially in escaping the madness of racism.
I see that every day in the faces of the 4th graders with whom I work
They really dont get the idea of color barriers (over 25 languages spoken by parents in my school; many more than that in others of my district....NW Chicago burb)
I told them the story of the blue eye/brown eye experiment the other day, and they really got it.
It was heartening. They couldnt get their minds around separate drinking fountains! That blew them away.
Some day well all be latte colored, I hope
You should make this an OP
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Yes, what they need is someone with money backing whatever campaigns the students want to run. Not the other way around.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Especially across the non-coastal regions of this country.
Their message needs to be heard.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Maybe this is ONE thing that might get through to the deplorables, the cult followers, whatever you want to label them
I had two long conversations today about the hopelessness of dealing with those who CANNOT accept objective reality, because of the brainwashing to which theyve been subjected, by calculating monsters, taking advantage of these poor rubes who, for whatever reason, are unable to think for themselves
Heres one explanation
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/02/stephen-bender/karl-rove-the-spectre-of-freudsnephew/
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized "
So opens Propaganda (1928), one of several strikingly frank analyses of western social psychology written by Edward Bernays. This nephew of Sigmund Freud founded the public relations industry in the United States.
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For Bernays, truth in public affairs did not exist per se. Rather, truth was the product of the "public relations counsel" forging prevailing "public opinion." It should be said that he readily recognized the ethical implications of his work, as witnessed in his later anti-smoking advocacy, after the dangers of cigarettes became known in the late-1950s. He could also be, in his own curious way, a humanitarian as reflected in his work promoting the NAACP and anti-syphilis public education.
For Bernays, however, the necessity of controlling the public mind was a crucially important matter confronting the better element, a group in which he clearly included himself. In his first work, the hugely influential Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923), Bernays noted that
the establishment of public education and the gradual extension of the right to vote caused consternation among western elites. The use of public relations techniques, then, was a way for the minority to "so mold the mind of the masses that they will throw their newly gained strength in the desired direction."
Sound familiar?
Marketing/PR 101 is all they needed
Remember Joe McGinnis? He saw the light with Nixon
Who got him elected?
gibraltar72
(7,513 posts)with them the dumbest thing he's done? They are so much smarter and eloquent than him. If he talks at them that's a terrible optic. If he actually has a conversation they'll show him up badly. I think he might have a bone spur flareup and not be able to show up.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)He will find a more Trump-friendly group of student and teacher cultists to meet with at another school, and they will be heavily screened ahead of time. He will also bring along his usual peanut gallery of cheering, slobbering orcs to hoot and clap at every idiotic thing he says.
Those Parkland kids will shred him to tiny orange bits on the international stage, and he knows it.
Cha
(297,818 posts)is a tweet war with the survivors.. who are much smarter than he is.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,481 posts)fearless young people on their mission to bring some sanity back to this f'en country. Anything Russian bots can do they can do better.
rainin
(3,011 posts)I would be afraid that he might threaten them.
struggle4progress
(118,379 posts)If they are real, they'll be OK
ffr
(22,674 posts)Respect.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Every single one of them defending Trump, calling the kids 'snowflakes", blaming parents, etc..
ProfessorGAC
(65,251 posts). . .to witness your 17 year old pals shot by a pyschopath, right?
How does experiencing such a trauma, then FIGHTING BACK verbally make anybody a snowflake? That's just stupid.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Did anyone see and hear Emily Gonzalez speak at an anti gun rally? She is a scholar at that school. She said that she and her peers reported the shooter to their teachers, to other authorities. She explicitly also stated that the FBI was not to blame.
Mr. Trump is wrong, wrong and asshole wrong.
appalachiablue
(41,182 posts)by a brave, outspoken new advocate for action. Amazing!
Emily's Speech, posted in V & M by the OP writer, thanks!
Hekate
(90,868 posts)Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Give me hope for the future. They are even getting this 60 yo fart fired up.
liberal N proud
(60,347 posts)They were thrust into this and have chosen to stand up to the challenge. We need to support them and help them change the world.
rickford66
(5,530 posts)Maybe that will make a difference.
Juliusseizure
(562 posts)When I was in high school in the mid-80's, if there were mass shootings every other week, I would have felt confident the adults (govt) would have addressed it. Not sufficiently. Not perfectly. But the President and other leaders would have at least acknowledged the problem.
I'm now the adult ashamed of my fellow adults, many of whom
don't care because it hasn't effected them yet. Because American society has just become a lot more self-centered, accepting of corruption, greedy, and amoral as a whole.
That high schooler's frustration with the focus on "MEMEME" was on point. Is it mere coincidence the (so called) American President is an extreme narcissist, or does it reflect the culture at large?
Mass shootings every month - 17 kids shot dead by a legally obtained semi-automatic rifle used for war marketed and sold online like ear buds - and we can't even get elected officials to use the word "gun". Pathetic.
I'd like to see a LOT more of this youthful energy and political involvement in display.
Cha
(297,818 posts)with every other thinking person.