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pbmus
(12,422 posts)chia
(2,244 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)airplaneman
(1,240 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)(See Dustin Hoffman in the movie if you dont get the reference.)
JHB
(37,163 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,874 posts)Scene in the movie was a guy dropping a box of toothpicks he had just opened. Rain Man stared at it for about 30 seconds and then started saying 197,197,197.
The guy looked at the box, which said it contained 200, and then looked inside to see that 3 were still there.
Takket
(21,649 posts)rpannier
(24,345 posts)than the number of people at il douche's inauguration
Takket
(21,649 posts)FSogol
(45,562 posts)Phoenix61
(17,021 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,741 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)Skittles
(153,227 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,307 posts)Move in the same direction as your neighbours
Remain close to your neighbours
Avoid collisions with your neighbours
However recent studies of starling flocks have shown that each bird modifies its position, relative to the six or seven animals directly surrounding it, no matter how close or how far away those animals are.[4] Interactions between flocking starlings are thus based on a topological rule rather than a metric rule. It remains to be seen whether this applies to other animals. Another recent study, based on an analysis of high speed camera footage of flocks above Rome and assuming minimal behavioural rules, has convincingly simulated a number of aspects of flock behaviour.[5][6][7][8]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_behaviour#Mathematical_models
Lots of other interesting examples of swarming at the Wiki page.
(The second and third rules above suggest there is an optimum distance range -- too close is repulsive, too far away attractive. Interestingly, kind of like van der Waals interactions between molecules.)
OhNo-Really
(3,985 posts)Maybe it is the poet in me. I've always wondered if they are messeging us but we don't understand Swarm-speak.
forgotmylogin
(7,539 posts)Only the birds are doing it in three dimensions instead of two.
I've heard they do "collide" occasionally, but it's just jostling in mid-air, same as people might brush past on a crowded sidewalk.
Ms. Toad
(34,117 posts)In the S[ring and fall I used to drive under one of those bird clouds about every other day. They don't cross my new path.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Thanks for this MelissaB!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Nature is so fucking amazing. Thank you for sharing.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)They are nasty noisy things. I usually bang lids to get them to leave.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)I can't fucking stand starlings. They are the avian version of wasps. Their sole purpose in this world is to go around multiplying like crazy and fucking shit up. Like humans, too, I guess.
Interestingly, there didn't use to be ANY starlings in North America until 1890, when some idiot imported a cage full of them from England and released them in Central Park as a tribute to William Shakespeare.
hunter
(38,338 posts)But when they showed up here in California they sure knocked down the garden snail population.
Garden snails are another invasive species. Snails used to be by far the worst pest in our organic garden. A foggy morning would bring out hundreds of them. Since the starlings arrived I rarely see any.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)They kill other birds for no other reason that to kill them. I found two Downy Woodpeckers dead in my yard last Spring. Their eyes had been poked out. That's how you know it was another bird, and You know it was a Starling because they're the only bird that will do that for no reason. I've seen them attack other birds as well. They're not welcome at my feeders, and the other birds will come right in after I chase them away, even with me standing right there. They hate the Starlings too, and they know I'm only chasing those ugly, vicious birds away and not aiming my aggression at them.
Needless to say I curse the people who brought them here from England years ago.
magicarpet
(14,189 posts).... big time.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)used to have a clump of trees that - for whatever reason - attracted an enormous flock of starlings. They would swoop around like that, like an aerial ballet, over one of our main streets and were fascinating enough people would have accidents because theyd get so caught up watching them.
Eventually the city put fine netting around the trees and just like that the starlings were gone. I suppose its safer, but it was a lot of fun to see them each evening.
tavernier
(12,410 posts)Ive encountered thousands of ppl in my grocery store on Friday evening right after work ends, buying beer and wine, and we weave our carts beautifully around each other without a knick or scratch.
Sophia4
(3,515 posts)CTyankee
(63,914 posts)is the warmest place in the city. I saw them swarm and the land in the piazza and them take off and leave. It was incredible. I had no idea this happened. Wonderful moment in my trip to Italy.
Silver1
(721 posts)That was amazing. I've looked at a lot of starling videos and can't get enough. Trying to figure out how to paint them and I'm not sure it's possible.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,202 posts)And welcome, by the way.
Silver1
(721 posts)I've been reading DU for a few years now. Thought it was time to join.
The starlings ... I think painting them would be about painting that blur! But how?
Red Mountain
(1,739 posts)Chipper Chat
(9,699 posts)In college one day at 5pm when thousands of them were roosting I took a pair of concert cymbals from the band room and made a huge crash. They flew but I was covered with starling droppings and it took an hour to clean and polish the cymbals.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)thbobby
(1,474 posts)Doesn't look like it could be real, but I am sure it is. Amazing!
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Such a lovely word.
Rhiannon12866
(206,332 posts)Thanks so much for posting!
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Thanks for sharing!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)a kennedy
(29,728 posts)Thanks for sharing.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)... how they choose a leader, and how that leader commands those gyrations.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Importing the to the US over a hundred years ago negatively affected the environment in ways we will never know.
If we could eradicate them here it would help out native species immensely.
I know, I can be a Debbie downer but I cant shake the scientist in me.