Trump Gets Caught in His Own Web of Lies (SIGNIT from Russia in 2013 he would run for President)

[MelissaB]

Trump Gets Caught in His Own Web of Lies

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As the president tweeted on Saturday: “Funny how the Fake News Media doesn’t want to say that the Russian group was formed in 2014, long before my run for President. Maybe they knew I was going to run even though I didn’t know!”

This claim is absurd on its face. That Donald Trump floated the idea of running for the White House several times before he officially threw his hat in the ring on June 16, 2015, is a matter of public record. Moreover, he applied for a patent on his trademark slogan Make America Great Again back in November 2012, just six days after Barack Obama was reelected. Donald Trump’s Twitter feed between then and the official announcement of his candidacy included several references to his impending presidential run. The future candidate was re-tweeting others’ use of the #Trump2016 hashtag as far back as 2013, another indication that the White House was on Trump’s mind long before June 2015.

Then there’s highly classified intelligence demonstrating that Donald Trump was planning on running for the presidency—with Kremlin backing—years before the 2016 election. Back in the spring of 2014, a European intelligence service, a NATO ally of the United States, received a top-secret report that the Russians would back Donald Trump for the White House in the next election. The source was a mid-level Russian intelligence official who had plausible access to secret Kremlin plans.

Moreover, this source had a track record of providing accurate information, so his Trump bombshell merited examination. However, our partners determined that the notion was so absurd—after all, Trump was a reality TV star, a mere carnival barker, not a serious person—that the report had to be Russian disinformation. The source was put “on ice” for several months and his information was not shared with the Americans, since our friends didn’t want to appear so foolish as to suggest Donald Trump would run for president with secret Russian help.

More: http://observer.com/2018/02/kremlin-officials-began-planning-donald-trump-us-presidency-in-2014/

[MelissaB]

1. SIGNIT

However, American intelligence was hearing similar whispers back in early 2014. The National Security Agency’s global signals intelligence apparatus picked up conversations about a coming Trump presidential run with Kremlin backing. These were what the SIGINT world calls “reflections”—that is, Russians talking to other Russians, without Americans (much less Team Trump members) involved. These intercepted conversations included discussions of Trump’s coming White House run and how Moscow planned to boost him; the SIGINT involved, while not detailed, left the indelible impression that this secret effort had approval from “the top” in the Kremlin. Some of NSA’s foreign spy partners intercepted similar conversations in 2014.

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Based on SIGINT reflections back in November 2013, it appeared likely that Trump had discussions with Kremlin officials when he was visiting Moscow, in preparation for his coming run for the White House. “It’s one hell of a coincidence,” an NSA official told me, “that high-ranking Russians suddenly start talking about getting Trump in the White House right after he’s in Moscow.” It’s unclear what intelligence, if any, was shared with the Obama White House about these SIGINT reflections, since its conclusions were tentative; there was no top-secret “smoking gun.” We can hope that Bob Mueller and his prosecutors will now get to the bottom of this murky intelligence puzzle.

[spanone]

3. sounds like collusion has been going on for years...?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

12. but emailz! Obama!

I have it on good authority that Obama failed to prevent the birth of Donald TrumPutin and therefore is to blame for all of this.

No sanity! No sanity! Call Hannity!

[Anon-C]

5. KICK & REC!!!!!!!!! -NT

[smirkymonkey]

2. K&R

[oberliner]

4. Fun fact: This source (The Observer) is run by Jared Kushner's brother-in-law

Until recently, it was run by Kushner himself.

[pnwmom]

11. Do you get along with all your relatives? nt

[karynnj]

13. Can you imagine an extended Kushner family event?

I imagine his father and his sister are still affected by what Jared's father did. Is that brother in law married to the sister who used Jared's name in China?

[Sophia4]

17. Maybe Kushner's debt is weighing heavily?

I'm just guessing. It's a remote possibility.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

6. Not to mention the group was formed right after Trump was in Russia

This Trump internet support group was created right after Trump was in Russia for the Miss Universe pageant and he reportedly met with a number of Russian oligarchs.

[SWBTATTReg]

7. BAM! Nail the bastards (tRUMP and his ilk)!!!!! nt

[justgamma]

8. Wonder who whispered in his ear.

"Run, Donald! You going to let that Black guy insult you? He's laughing at you! Go ahead and run, we'll have your back." You know he had people (Russians) pushing him.

[grantcart]

25. Trump tan ads in 1987 to run for President and formally

ran for the Reform Party nomination in 2000. He has talked about it for 30 years. Only now did he find the comrades he needed to succeed.

[struggle4progress]

33. +

[Wounded Bear]

9. K & R...for visibility...nt

[poboy2]

10. Dissecting his gish gallop

Dissecting his gish gallop is the same as always. It takes 20x's time and energy to refute, and by the time you finish that one, he's put out another -never answering for the previous.

[SammyWinstonJack]

18. +1.

[getagrip_already]

14. how do they know this?

SigInt isn't something joe blow would have access to. Either this is a made up leak, or someone leaked this for a very specific reason.

This isn't a normal leak.

Maybe even a foreign source?

Sorry, with all the trolls and bots trolling sites, I have become very suspicious of unamed sources. EVEN when it fits my view of how things work.

[MelissaB]

15. The author is a former intelligence guy.

[MelissaB]

19. John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintellige

John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He's published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee.

http://observer.com/author/john-r-schindler/

[getagrip_already]

23. impressive.... but again...

How does he KNOW?

To know, you have to see the intel or get briefed by someone who has, and nobody who has is going to leak that without some really, really, good cover.

He didn't see it himself. He doesn't have the current clearance. So how does he know this?

[MelissaB]

16. Add this.

Link to tweet

[Leghorn21]

29. Add this to this:

David Evan McMullin[1] (born April 2, 1976) is a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operations officer who ran as an independent during the 2016 United States presidential election.
- wiki

Mr. McMullin knows, as they say, some shit...he’s just been trained to be hyper-seriously discreet, non?

Hi MB!

[MelissaB]

31. Thanks Leghorn! Yes, he knows shit...

[nocalflea]

22. Schindler's highly respected in both the domestic and foreign intelligence communties.

He ran counterintel ops against Russia at the NSA. Check his blog for more info about him and read some of his older posts to get an idea of who he is.

20committee.com

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

20. I'm shocked

That a pathological, bald faced liar would lie.

[Ms. Toad]

21. Much as I'd like to believe this,

The article includes the laughably false assertion that trump applied for a patent on his trademark. If you can't be bothered to fact check whether it is even possible to patent a trademark, I have no faith that you have fact checked things you can't easily clarify by looking up a definition or two.

[nocalflea]

24. Click the link in the article :https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-began-planning-bid-right-after-romney-lost

"Records show that Donald Trump applied to trademark the phrase “Make America Great Again” six days after President Obama was elected to a second term."

[Ms. Toad]

30. It is impossible to PATENT a TRADEMARK

They are two different forms of intellectual property.

Yes he filled an application to register his trademark. He did not file to PATENT his trademark, because that isn't something it is possible to do, which might have taken all of a minute to confirm. If the author can't even bother to do that basic level of fact checking, I can't trust that they have been more careful with other facts that would take a bit more digging to confirm

[NurseJackie]

26. Kick! (And THANK YOU for posting this!!)

[CBHagman]

27. I didn't remember the early trademarking of "Make America Great Again," but here's Karen Tumulty...

...with the timeline.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-came-up-with-make-america-great-again/2017/01/17/fb6acf5e-dbf7-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html?utm_term=.dd4351ee069e

The four words that would help propel Donald Trump to the White House were an inspiration born years before, when hardly anyone but Trump himself could imagine him taking the oath of office as the 45th president of the United States.

It happened on Nov. 7, 2012, the day after Mitt Romney lost what had been presumed to be a winnable race against President Obama. Republicans were spiraling into an identity crisis, one that had some wondering whether a GOP president would ever sit in the Oval Office again.

[oasis]

28. Good point for Sarah Hucksterbee to dance around at the next WH press confab. nt

[roamer65]

32. The GCHQ and NSA have it all.

There isn’t anything the Doughnut and Fort Meade don’t already know.

The time consuming process is for a Mueller to build a solid, airtight criminal case.

[Cha]

34. trump: MRGA