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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,828 posts)
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:24 PM Feb 2018

Fuck you, I like guns.......How we SUCK at Adulting....

The author of this piece, an Army veteran, goes into detail like I have not thought existed as she talks about what the purpose of the AR-15 is for. Read for yourselves and then discuss. A view both sides of the issue should understand.

[link:https://agingmillennialengineer.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/fuck-you-i-like-guns-2/|

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Fuck you, I like guns.......How we SUCK at Adulting.... (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2018 OP
She. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #1
corrected..... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2018 #3
Let me just say... I didn't used to be a gun grabber but I have now joined the official gun grabber Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #11
AR 15s arent the problem. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #2
AR 15's are a problem clearly...most mass murders employ this weapon. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #10
maybe not. see down thread. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #15
An overwhelming percentage of murders are not. Nt NCTraveler Feb 2018 #47
Yes, all guns are the problem, but the AR-15 leads the pack in dealing mass death. VOX Feb 2018 #39
Guns are whats creating mass death. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #48
Excellent RandomAccess Feb 2018 #4
Well Said! dlk Feb 2018 #5
Author nails the anti-military gun argument. sinkingfeeling Feb 2018 #6
There is no other side to this issue...I won't read shit about people that defend the death Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #7
+1000 Ferrets are Cool Feb 2018 #9
When I was in, we didn't have enough m-16's to go around, so... TreasonousBastard Feb 2018 #8
I don't think anyone should be able to own guns. alarimer Feb 2018 #12
Why? Because, partially it is a .... MicaelS Feb 2018 #14
how about a big FUCK YOU to gun humping cowards who cannot see there is a PROBLEM? Skittles Feb 2018 #23
Go for it. MicaelS Feb 2018 #27
nope Skittles Feb 2018 #28
+1,000 !! CountAllVotes Feb 2018 #29
I'm not so sure the premise of her argument is correct. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #13
They were banned during a large part of that period. bettyellen Feb 2018 #26
Not really. I bought my first AR during the so-called ban. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #37
What a gross little humble brag. No one is impressed by your gun purchases. bettyellen Feb 2018 #38
Wow. I only offered my purchase as proof that they weren't really banned aikoaiko Feb 2018 #40
First AR and dont you sound soo proud of your collection. bettyellen Feb 2018 #44
I'm not proud. It took no skill. ARs were available everywhere during the AWB. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #45
Its alright, you can list your whole collection if you need to. bettyellen Feb 2018 #46
great paragraph here NRaleighLiberal Feb 2018 #16
Using that reasoning then most of the bolt action hunting rifles should also be banned. oneshooter Feb 2018 #41
All the republicans do is cut, cut, cut. Initech Feb 2018 #17
I don't own a gun but I have some yuiyoshida Feb 2018 #18
Almost went into Kendo gay texan Feb 2018 #20
you want I should kick your Kendo-ing ass, yuiyoshida? Skittles Feb 2018 #21
Uh... um... yuiyoshida Feb 2018 #24
Tsuki Ali? :) Motownman78 Feb 2018 #34
Subarashii desyo! yuiyoshida Feb 2018 #49
Yes. And at the time they were the most efficient people - killing weapons in existence, Volaris Feb 2018 #35
I am both petronius Feb 2018 #43
That was a good read. Rorey Feb 2018 #19
Should ban the sale of AR-15 rockfordfile Feb 2018 #22
This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one USALiberal Feb 2018 #25
Well said leanforward Feb 2018 #30
What does AR mean again? Then explain to me why it is needed for civilians still_one Feb 2018 #31
ArmALite Rifle Hangingon Feb 2018 #33
AR in Deplorable means small penis. Volaris Feb 2018 #36
After reading this...... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2018 #32
Great article nini Feb 2018 #42

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
11. Let me just say... I didn't used to be a gun grabber but I have now joined the official gun grabber
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:42 PM
Feb 2018

club and will fight to wrest the weapons of death out of American hands. It is time.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
39. Yes, all guns are the problem, but the AR-15 leads the pack in dealing mass death.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:38 PM
Feb 2018

The standard round for the AR-15 looks like a miniature missile, and it comes at (and into) its victims with incredible damaging power.

As described in the Washington Post a couple of days ago, one of the Florida victims was hit in the arm, the bullet then exited and re-entered her arm, exited again and entered her chest cavity, finally lodging in her spine, killing her.

The Las Vegas shooter was raining death onto his victims with this weapon. In fact, AR-15-style rifles have been present in every major mass shooting in the past several years.

The AR-15 is designed to kill humans in groups and with deadly efficiency. There is no earthly reason for anyone who’s not in law enforcement or the military to own one of these killing machines. It needs to be BANNED.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
48. Guns are whats creating mass death.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 08:59 AM
Feb 2018

The AR15 accounts for a small percentage of murders and other gun deaths.

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
7. There is no other side to this issue...I won't read shit about people that defend the death
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:40 PM
Feb 2018

weapon ...AR15. It needs to banned along with all assault weapons period. We will win his fight eventually...just a matter of how many innocents die first. Maybe this is the tipping point... the gun humpers love their guns more than their kids but others are waking up and when this becomes an important issue for average voters, the gun humpers are done.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. When I was in, we didn't have enough m-16's to go around, so...
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:41 PM
Feb 2018

we still had m-14's. Even worse, in ROTC we had m-1's

Anyway, she's absolutely right-- military arms are designed to kill as many people as possible as fast as possible. And the military does not allow you to wander around with your assigned weapon just to look like a badass.

The clowns walking around in cammie fatigues, field packs, and other military drag are scary as hell. You walk around with a weapon if you are going to the range or going into action. Not to look cool. (Unless you're in a formation with arms, and then they better be unloaded.)

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
12. I don't think anyone should be able to own guns.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:46 PM
Feb 2018

Seriously, why do people have such a fetish about guns?

This one in particular has been used in EVERY SINGLE MASS SHOOTING. This means purchase and possession should be banned immediately.

Several European countries have very strict education and licensing requirements and I think we should model our gun policy after that. Not this non-policy we have now.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
14. Why? Because, partially it is a ....
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:55 PM
Feb 2018

Gesture of defiance toward people with your mindset. It is a great big "Fuck You", just like flying a Confederate Flag.

Skittles

(153,230 posts)
28. nope
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:30 PM
Feb 2018

they don't care about massacred people, but get upset if you call them COWARDS or question their precious masculinity

fucking ASSHOLES

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
13. I'm not so sure the premise of her argument is correct.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:54 PM
Feb 2018

"With this in mind, is anybody surprised that nearly every mass shooter in recent US history has used an AR-15 to commit their crime?"

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

Of course, it may be true that ARs are used more in recent years.

Nevertheless, it is instructive that we should expect mass shootings to continue with non-AR rifles.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
37. Not really. I bought my first AR during the so-called ban.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:29 PM
Feb 2018

It didn't have a few features I can now own, but it was essentially the same rifle Lanza used in Newtown (and CT had a state level AWB).

Oh and I bought several 30 round mags too.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
38. What a gross little humble brag. No one is impressed by your gun purchases.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:34 PM
Feb 2018

I find that most gun lovers enjoy bothering people who favor gun control more than they do the actual guns. Miserable, paranoid, but at least they have their guns to love.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
40. Wow. I only offered my purchase as proof that they weren't really banned
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:39 PM
Feb 2018

And that the versions that were available were capable of the mass shootings we see after the so-called ban.

No bragging. ARs were for sale.

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
45. I'm not proud. It took no skill. ARs were available everywhere during the AWB.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:45 PM
Feb 2018


Again, I offered my experience to show you that you were wrong about their availability.
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
46. Its alright, you can list your whole collection if you need to.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 12:49 AM
Feb 2018

It’s obvious you’re fond of listing your purchases.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,027 posts)
16. great paragraph here
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:59 PM
Feb 2018

As an avowed pacifist now, it turns my stomach to even type the above words, but can you refute them? I can’t. Every weapon that a US Army soldier uses has the express purpose of killing human beings. That is what they are made for. The choice rifle for years has been some variant of what civilians are sold as an AR-15. Whether it was an M-4 or an M-16 matters little. The function is the same, and so is the purpose. These are not deer rifles. They are not target rifles. They are people killing rifles. Let’s stop pretending they’re not.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
41. Using that reasoning then most of the bolt action hunting rifles should also be banned.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:00 PM
Feb 2018

Since the majority of them are based on a Paul Mauser design. A design that was built for KILLING PEOPLE.

Initech

(100,112 posts)
17. All the republicans do is cut, cut, cut.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:00 PM
Feb 2018

They never question why we have these things. Like why do we have mental health services? Nope, they see a line item, they cut it. That's part of the reason why we're in the mess we're in. Maybe the problem is republicans?

yuiyoshida

(41,867 posts)
18. I don't own a gun but I have some
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:00 PM
Feb 2018

Pretty Bad ass Japanese Katana .. the real thing, a collection given to me years ago for my 18th Birthday, family, handed down from generations of Yoshida. Anyway.. Its probably why my dad made me take KENDO when I was 3 years old.

Skittles

(153,230 posts)
21. you want I should kick your Kendo-ing ass, yuiyoshida?
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:12 PM
Feb 2018

YOU KNOW I WOULD GO TOE TO TOE WITH YOU MY SWEET

Volaris

(10,275 posts)
35. Yes. And at the time they were the most efficient people - killing weapons in existence,
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:25 PM
Feb 2018

The Japanese royalty banned their use among the general population, if I'm not mistaken.
It's why pheasants learned to kill people efficently with modified farm implements, if I remember correctly...

rockfordfile

(8,708 posts)
22. Should ban the sale of AR-15
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:12 PM
Feb 2018

It says a lot about a gun nuts that start off with fuck you. Go say that to the families that were murdered.

USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
25. This rifle is so deadly and so easy to use that no civilian should be able to get their hands on one
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:17 PM
Feb 2018

From the story!

nini

(16,672 posts)
42. Great article
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:17 PM
Feb 2018

and while I'm not a gun fan in general this is exactly the point I make with the gun nuts. People just do NOT need an assault rifle,, they are not trained to use them and there's no need in a non war scenario.

Let me add.. my dad was a cop. We had a gun in the house when I was growing up. I'm not against them in theory but not everyone should have access to them either.

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