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We now declare the presidency of Donald J Drumpf illegitimate and we demand (Original Post) mfcorey1 Feb 2018 OP
Proud to cosign! femmocrat Feb 2018 #1
Please!!!! handmade34 Feb 2018 #2
Gorsuck Danascot Feb 2018 #3
Sadly they are here forever. dem4decades Feb 2018 #5
signing triron Feb 2018 #4
Except for now Rosenstein has denied their evidence has changed the outcome of the election mucifer Feb 2018 #6
The conclusion's desired. Igel Feb 2018 #9
Also Illegitimate .. Horizens Feb 2018 #7
Half of that Congress are a bunch of pussies who think tax cuts and entitlement cuts are more politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #8
You must file your petition with Justice Crater before it can be acted on. Jim Lane Feb 2018 #10

dem4decades

(11,308 posts)
5. Sadly they are here forever.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 10:59 AM
Feb 2018

The assault on our Democracy started years ago when McConnell began blocking Obama's judicial nominees.

mucifer

(23,577 posts)
6. Except for now Rosenstein has denied their evidence has changed the outcome of the election
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:13 AM
Feb 2018

That might change soon. But, that is what he said yesterday.

Igel

(35,374 posts)
9. The conclusion's desired.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:48 AM
Feb 2018

It's like looking at a local politician that you really despise.

You find that somebody offered him a bribe in 2017 and was indicted for attempted bribery.

Suddenly you know that the politician took the bribe, had taken other bribes, and you have an explanation for those votes you didn't like back in 2012-2016.

In the unlikely event of an actual video of the event with the politician saying no and walking away surfacing, the conclusion would still be hanging there in the air, believed as true as ever, a logical epiphyte struggling to grow a factual premise to anchor itself to.


Same for the consistency of the other side's ability to logic. People are people.

Rosenstein said *this* indictment gives no evidence that the outcome of the election was influenced. The intelligence consensus report said the same thing. Finding evidence would be tough--and, to be honest, most of the people who'd be willing to do the work to come up with the evidence probably know that they'd fail at it or use such shabby methods that they'd disgrace themselves. It's not even clear that the confused mess a congressperson spouted on the radio this morning, "preventing" this problem by "punishing those who did hacked our elections" and stopping the media influence that was the hacking of the DNC, is clear on the idea that an attempt is not the same as success. You don't prevent a murder by arresting the killer after the fact; influencing the media was different from a spear-phishing attempt on the DNC.

 

Horizens

(637 posts)
7. Also Illegitimate ..
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:14 AM
Feb 2018

Senator Pat Toomay, (R-PA) won by 86K votes. Minus russian interference in PA and the Comey BS he and Hillary would have won PA.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
8. Half of that Congress are a bunch of pussies who think tax cuts and entitlement cuts are more
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 11:26 AM
Feb 2018

important to our democracy's existence than having a Dotard in the White House who is doing the Kremlin's bidding for them in exchange for God knows what. It's apparent that the Dotard has sold his soul to Putin for a few pieces of silver and the GOP Congress is content to know that fact, which is why we need to remain united as a party so that we are in a solid position to take back the House and the Senate this November. Our nation's survival may well depend on it.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
10. You must file your petition with Justice Crater before it can be acted on.
Sat Feb 17, 2018, 08:39 PM
Feb 2018

And not just any judge who happens to be named "Crater" -- it has to be the Justice Crater.

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