Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:37 PM Feb 2018

"Come into my parlor said the Mueller to the Trump", "No one knowingly involved, tell me your side"

Mueller is trying to get Trump to give an interview under oath.

These indictments box Trump into accepting that nothing exists that links American to these bad Russians. Come into my parlor and tell me all about how you did nothing with them.

4 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Yes, but several Americans and organizations were involved. There were the unknowing as
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:40 PM
Feb 2018

indicated in the indictment and others rather coyly referred to but not further identified as knowing or not.

It was an American R in Texas that told the Russkies to target purple states and then several organizations got $$$$.

From Fox (sorry), but accurate:

Prosecutors accuse the Russians of communicating with a real U.S. person affiliated with a Texas-based grassroots organization. They learned from that person to focus their activities on “purple states like Colorado, Virginia and Florida," the indictment says.

It also says the group’s employees – referred to as “specialists” – created social media accounts to look like they were operated by Americans. They created group pages on Facebook and Instagram with names like “Secured Borders,” “Blacktivist” (to promote the Black Lives Matter movement), “United Muslims of America,” “Army of Jesus,” “South United” and “Heart of Texas.”

They also created and controlled numerous Twitter accounts, like one named “Tennessee GOP” under the @TEN_GOP handle that attracted more than 100,000 followers.

According to the indictment, the specialists were instructed to post content online that criticized “Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump – we support them)."

It said they used pro-Trump, anti-Clinton hashtags online like “#Trump2016,” “#TrumpTrain,” “#MAGA,” “#IWontProtectHillary,” and “Hillary4Prison.”

It says the defendants, around the latter half of 2016, encouraged minority groups in the United States not to vote in the election or vote for a third party candidate. An Instagram account they controlled called “Woke Blacks” posted a message on Oct. 16, 2016 that read: “We cannot resort to the lesser of two devils. Then we’d surely be better off without voting AT ALL.”

Fox News' Jake Gibson contributed to this report.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
2. I think Mueller is trying to take away all of Trumps excuses for not doing an interview.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:42 PM
Feb 2018

He is appealing to his vanity that Trump can come in and try persuade that nobody did anything bad "knowingly".

Once he gets to the interview he will see a different set of questions.

In the meantime Trump can no longer protest that no Russian involvement exists.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. I agree with you on that. But the indictment referring to persons known and unknown TO THE
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:48 PM
Feb 2018

GRAND JURY means Mueller knows...but can not reveal for fear of prejudicing further investigation...one is surely Shitler. Unindicted coconspirators...for now.

His lawyers have a real conundrum. Must be pouring over every word.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
4. this isn't the tip of the iceberg, its the speck on the top of the highest point just peaking out
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:52 PM
Feb 2018

They got inside the Russian side. Going back to 2013. They have massive amounts of intel.

Clearly the NSA and the CIA have been providing huge amounts of detail of Russian activity.

His lawyers won't even be able to discern the outer limits of what Mueller knows.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»"Come into my parlor said...