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McDougal wrote in an eight-page, handwritten note her friend, John Crawford, shared with The New Yorkers Ronan Farrow that Trump immediately took a liking to me, kept talking to me telling me how beautiful I was etc.
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https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/ronan-farrow-details-alleged-trump-affair-with-playboy-model-in-new-yorker-piece/
MORE DIRTY:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-a-playboy-model-and-a-system-for-concealing-infidelity-national-enquirer-karen-mcdougal
GusBob
(7,286 posts)when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they would still get on their knees for him, he was right
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)because they want to live vicariously through his perceived lifestyle of the rich and famous.
and the evangelicals will will give mulligan number 1,546
GusBob
(7,286 posts)not so much a high five as a low five for their hero
Yeah , there is a bunch of Trumpers reach right now.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not sure how or why this is relevant to anything.
ProfessorGAC
(65,248 posts). . .Melania knows. She's sheltered little twit, but she's not a complete idiot. She is sticking around for the lifestyle.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Rich powerful guys who are able to have affairs with much younger women and are surrounded by attractive models generally take advantage of those circumstances. And their wives often find it more beneficial to stay married and maintain the lifestyle as you mention.
But, I guess, my point is: this is not the thing to criticize Trump about. It is not relevant to the actual serious damaging actions that we do need to attack him for.
ProfessorGAC
(65,248 posts). . .but there is a hair of a hope that some of the christian right will see affair after affair and finally decide they can't back this serial adulterer.
Probably not, but the only way we find out is to keep exposing it.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)And this quote from Trump is despicable:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-a-playboy-model-and-a-system-for-concealing-infidelity-national-enquirer-karen-mcdougal
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Did it matter to you that Bill was not faithful to his wife?
In terms of that quote, yes, that is despicable. Trump is an awful human being in every respect.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Yes, fidelity is important in a relationship. Is fidelity important to you ?
Oh, please list all the porn stars and playmates who Bill Clinton had sex with and then paid for their silence.
Thank you in advance.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Did any Republican presidents have affairs ?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The point being that those were all great presidents, extramarital affairs notwithstanding.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Would you agree Jimmy Carter, Harry Truman, and Barack Obama were great presidents, their lack
of " extramarital affairs notwithstanding " ?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But I think the point I am trying to make is that having an extramarital affair is not really relevant one way or the other.
Republicans make awful presidents - even those that do not cheat on their wives.
Democrats make good or great presidents - even those that do cheat on their wives, such as the ones I mentioned.
That's my very broad and general take on the subject.
Kingofalldems
(38,496 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Which I think you are still not understanding.
In my opinion, Democrats can still be great presidents even if they have extramarital affairs (examples being the ones I listed: Clinton, Johnson, Kennedy, and Roosevelt).
Republicans are awful presidents - and whether or not they have extramarital affairs is not what makes them so - it's the loathsome policies they support and promote.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Hopefully, my follow-up posts helped clarify things. I would not want to be misunderstood on this topic.
WhiteTara
(29,728 posts)I'm SURE Bush the Meaner had lots of women on the side. Nixon was such a dog, who would have an affair with him?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)I vehemently disagreed with his policies but I don't believe he was a fundamentally bad guy like Trump. From all indications he is a good father and husband. His children have turned out fine.
Warren G. Harding (R) had sex with a seventeen year old in a White House broom closet.
WhiteTara
(29,728 posts)I don't say he was a playboy in the WH, but I do think they were inordinately close
Zoonart
(11,887 posts)This is. not a case of an affair of the heart or even passion. This is the malignant narcissist using everyone in his sphere as he pleases with no regard for anything but what HE wants. This is a feature and not a bug for his Trumpers, a super-man who takes what he wants, who gets what he wants with no fear of reprisal.
He is also notoriously mentally abusive to everyone around him, staff and family.
So lets not trot out the Democratic Presidents with feet of clay and lump them all together with "They all do. it", shall we newbie?
This is not the same.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)My only point is that his extramarital affairs are not all that relevant to what makes him an awful POTUS and despicable human being.
Great presidents have had affairs and have still been great presidents.
Trump is an awful president for other reasons that we are all well aware of here.
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Considering that the people that targeted Clinton (Gingrich, Barr, Livingston, Hyde, etc...) too had extra-marital affairs. While targeting Clinton.
dalton99a
(81,637 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)dalton99a
(81,637 posts)I bet they're applauding it
GusBob
(7,286 posts)which in the case of Stormy Daniels was illegal
and in most cases is known as blackmail
Ask John Edwards about that
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Agreed.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)I had never heard of the "catch and kill" thing before, where the media buys a story and buries it
this actually increases the odds of blackmail, and for sure reeks of influence peddling
kinda the opposite of fake news if you think about it---hiding the truth
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)He spent money on the coverup. Cannot afford to have Melania divorce him and challenge the prenup. The enemy of our enemy is our friend. Keep the pressure on.
You Republicans didn't say that about Bill clintons affair!
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Did you actually vote for Bill Clinton?
Just curious. Because you pull this "but Democrats do it" crap every time one Trump's dalliances is exposed or when a Republican does something really fucked up.
BTW, I really don't think you're a democrat, progressive, liberal, etc...
Just so you know.
Kaleva
(36,361 posts)The people who voted for Trump simply because they didn't like Hillary and thought Trump was the lesser of two evils are more important. The murky middle.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)irony is long dead
Maxine Page, who worked at A.M.I. on and off from 2002 to 2012, including as an executive editor at one of the companys Web sites, said that Pecker also used the unpublished stories as leverage over some celebrities in order to pressure them to pose for his magazines or feed him stories.
Several former employees said that these celebrities included Arnold Schwarzenegger, as reported by the Los Angeles Times, and Tiger Woods. (Schwarzenegger, through an attorney, denied this claim. Woods did not respond to requests for comment.) Even though theyre just tabloids, just rags, its still a cause of concern, Page said. In theory, you would think that Trump has all the power in that relationship, but in fact Pecker has the powerhe has the power to run these stories. He knows where the bodies are buried.
spanone
(135,900 posts)dalton99a
(81,637 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)It was too despicable to put in the thread starter.
no_hypocrisy
(46,234 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,064 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is the argument he will use.
rickford66
(5,530 posts)beaglelover
(3,496 posts)keeps her from having to have sex with that pig. She got her power, money and child, she's happy to let him screw around behind her back.
Kaleva
(36,361 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)he sleeps with other people. She probably thinks, better them than me. Honestly, what woman in her right mind would sleep with that disgusting, orange tub of lard unless their was something in it for her financially. Nobody sleeps with him out of lust, and certainly not out of love.
Kaleva
(36,361 posts)You may be right though. As long as there was discretion, she didn't mind at all as Trump was getting his jollies with other women and left her alone.
beaglelover
(3,496 posts)Its all better now. Trump gave her a gift.
Kaleva
(36,361 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,496 posts)Republicans not liking this thread.
JDC
(10,135 posts)The American people most notably.
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)reality: that looks bloody awkward