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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:18 AM Feb 2018

Bombshell report emerges of alleged Trump affair with Playboy model





Donald Trump had an affair with former Playmate of the Year Karen McDougal — whom he met at a party for “The Apprentice” in 2006 while married to his wife Melania, according to an explosive report on Friday that details the great lengths the future president took to conceal his alleged indiscretions from the press.

McDougal wrote in an eight-page, handwritten note her friend, John Crawford, shared with The New Yorker’s Ronan Farrow that Trump “immediately took a liking to me, kept talking to me – telling me how beautiful I was etc.

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https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/ronan-farrow-details-alleged-trump-affair-with-playboy-model-in-new-yorker-piece/



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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-a-playboy-model-and-a-system-for-concealing-infidelity-national-enquirer-karen-mcdougal

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Bombshell report emerges of alleged Trump affair with Playboy model (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 OP
Color me cynical, but this wont even illicit a yawn from his supporters GusBob Feb 2018 #1
Most of them will cheer him on NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #3
Millions of deplorables are googling her name and reaching for their belt buckles as we type GusBob Feb 2018 #6
Yes Joediss Feb 2018 #36
But who actually cares if he had an affair? oberliner Feb 2018 #7
In Addition To That. . . ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #8
Yeah - it's relatively standard operating procedure oberliner Feb 2018 #9
I Know This Might Be Tilting At Windmills. . . ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #12
Do you think if this was another president it would be front page news ? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #10
Bill Clinton, for instance? oberliner Feb 2018 #11
Well DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #13
Bill Clinton, JFK, LBJ, and FDR all had extramarital affairs oberliner Feb 2018 #17
Your list only includes Democratic presidents. I am sure that's just an oversight. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #18
Because Democratic presidents are the ones that I admire oberliner Feb 2018 #19
Would you agree DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #21
Absolutely oberliner Feb 2018 #40
You noticed? Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #25
I am sure it was a mere oversight. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #26
No, it was completely deliberate and the entire point of the post oberliner Feb 2018 #41
Being a great Democratic president and being faithful to your spouse are not mutually exclusive. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #44
Thanks for jumping in on this oberliner Feb 2018 #43
Well there was * and Kinda Sleazy WhiteTara Feb 2018 #55
I will give Dubya the benefit of the doubt. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #56
I don't think that has anything to do with him having an affair. WhiteTara Feb 2018 #57
This does not compare. Zoonart Feb 2018 #29
There is no doubt that Trump is awful in every respect oberliner Feb 2018 #42
To the party (GOP) that boasts of being morally superior than the other it may matter tenderfoot Feb 2018 #46
+1 dalton99a Feb 2018 #16
Can you imagine the reaction if it was Barack Obama ? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #22
The entire GOP/Christian conservative complex is not just ignoring/tolerating it dalton99a Feb 2018 #24
Except for one leetle detail: these gals are getting paid off GusBob Feb 2018 #20
That is a significant point oberliner Feb 2018 #23
And I agree with you. This is SOP for the rich and famous. But there's another aspect to this GusBob Feb 2018 #39
Trump cares MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #30
cheat johnmont Feb 2018 #34
If Trump's abuse of a 13 year old comes to light, will you again bring up Bill Clinton? tenderfoot Feb 2018 #45
His supporters are lost causes and not that important Kaleva Feb 2018 #48
Use this link instead. F the Post Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #2
Pecker Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #4
this guy is a cesspool of moral shite spanone Feb 2018 #5
That's ok - give him a mulligan dalton99a Feb 2018 #14
See Post #10. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #15
OMG, Trump cheated on Stormy Daniels! no_hypocrisy Feb 2018 #27
Funny! MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #31
Can't wait to hear Franklin Graham try to defend another one! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #28
Mulligan on every hole. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #33
"It happened before he was President" oberliner Feb 2018 #38
Job security for the UXB squad. rickford66 Feb 2018 #32
I wouldn't doubt that Melanoma and Trump have an open marriage. I'm sure she doesn't mind.... beaglelover Feb 2018 #35
Her attitude and behaviour towards him in public suggests she does mind. Kaleva Feb 2018 #49
I think she minds being humiliated in public. I don't think she minds the fact that smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #50
Then these allegations being made public humilate her. Kaleva Feb 2018 #51
Shes back with him in FL. beaglelover Feb 2018 #53
Apparently they got into a screaming match on Air Force 1 Kaleva Feb 2018 #54
Makes you wonder, how many stories Trump's buddy at the Enquirer buried? sarcasmo Feb 2018 #37
Kick and rec. Kingofalldems Feb 2018 #47
Another Mulligan. He cheats at everything and on everyone JDC Feb 2018 #52
that surely is a loving, warm, emotional attachment baby Trump has for his absentee dad BoneyardDem Feb 2018 #58

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
1. Color me cynical, but this wont even illicit a yawn from his supporters
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:20 AM
Feb 2018

when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they would still get on their knees for him, he was right

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
3. Most of them will cheer him on
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:25 AM
Feb 2018

because they want to live vicariously through his perceived lifestyle of the rich and famous.

and the evangelicals will will give mulligan number 1,546

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
6. Millions of deplorables are googling her name and reaching for their belt buckles as we type
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:28 AM
Feb 2018

not so much a high five as a low five for their hero

ProfessorGAC

(65,248 posts)
8. In Addition To That. . .
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:33 AM
Feb 2018

. . .Melania knows. She's sheltered little twit, but she's not a complete idiot. She is sticking around for the lifestyle.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Yeah - it's relatively standard operating procedure
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:37 AM
Feb 2018

Rich powerful guys who are able to have affairs with much younger women and are surrounded by attractive models generally take advantage of those circumstances. And their wives often find it more beneficial to stay married and maintain the lifestyle as you mention.

But, I guess, my point is: this is not the thing to criticize Trump about. It is not relevant to the actual serious damaging actions that we do need to attack him for.

ProfessorGAC

(65,248 posts)
12. I Know This Might Be Tilting At Windmills. . .
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:57 AM
Feb 2018

. . .but there is a hair of a hope that some of the christian right will see affair after affair and finally decide they can't back this serial adulterer.

Probably not, but the only way we find out is to keep exposing it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
10. Do you think if this was another president it would be front page news ?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:50 AM
Feb 2018

And this quote from Trump is despicable:


According to multiple sources, Trump remarked that the friend liked “the big black dick” and began commenting on her attractiveness and breast size. The interactions angered the friend and deeply offended McDougal.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-a-playboy-model-and-a-system-for-concealing-infidelity-national-enquirer-karen-mcdougal
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Bill Clinton, for instance?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:56 AM
Feb 2018

Did it matter to you that Bill was not faithful to his wife?

In terms of that quote, yes, that is despicable. Trump is an awful human being in every respect.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
13. Well
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:59 AM
Feb 2018
Did it matter to you that Bill was not faithful to his wife?


Yes, fidelity is important in a relationship. Is fidelity important to you ?

Oh, please list all the porn stars and playmates who Bill Clinton had sex with and then paid for their silence.

Thank you in advance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
18. Your list only includes Democratic presidents. I am sure that's just an oversight.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:07 AM
Feb 2018

Did any Republican presidents have affairs ?
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Because Democratic presidents are the ones that I admire
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:08 AM
Feb 2018

The point being that those were all great presidents, extramarital affairs notwithstanding.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
21. Would you agree
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:13 AM
Feb 2018

Would you agree Jimmy Carter, Harry Truman, and Barack Obama were great presidents, their lack
of
" extramarital affairs notwithstanding " ?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. Absolutely
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:34 PM
Feb 2018

But I think the point I am trying to make is that having an extramarital affair is not really relevant one way or the other.

Republicans make awful presidents - even those that do not cheat on their wives.

Democrats make good or great presidents - even those that do cheat on their wives, such as the ones I mentioned.

That's my very broad and general take on the subject.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. No, it was completely deliberate and the entire point of the post
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:35 PM
Feb 2018

Which I think you are still not understanding.

In my opinion, Democrats can still be great presidents even if they have extramarital affairs (examples being the ones I listed: Clinton, Johnson, Kennedy, and Roosevelt).

Republicans are awful presidents - and whether or not they have extramarital affairs is not what makes them so - it's the loathsome policies they support and promote.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
43. Thanks for jumping in on this
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:43 PM
Feb 2018

Hopefully, my follow-up posts helped clarify things. I would not want to be misunderstood on this topic.

WhiteTara

(29,728 posts)
55. Well there was * and Kinda Sleazy
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:00 PM
Feb 2018

I'm SURE Bush the Meaner had lots of women on the side. Nixon was such a dog, who would have an affair with him?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
56. I will give Dubya the benefit of the doubt.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:04 PM
Feb 2018

I vehemently disagreed with his policies but I don't believe he was a fundamentally bad guy like Trump. From all indications he is a good father and husband. His children have turned out fine.


Warren G. Harding (R) had sex with a seventeen year old in a White House broom closet.

WhiteTara

(29,728 posts)
57. I don't think that has anything to do with him having an affair.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:19 PM
Feb 2018

I don't say he was a playboy in the WH, but I do think they were inordinately close

Zoonart

(11,887 posts)
29. This does not compare.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:28 AM
Feb 2018

This is. not a case of an affair of the heart or even passion. This is the malignant narcissist using everyone in his sphere as he pleases with no regard for anything but what HE wants. This is a feature and not a bug for his Trumpers, a super-man who takes what he wants, who gets what he wants with no fear of reprisal.
He is also notoriously mentally abusive to everyone around him, staff and family.

So lets not trot out the Democratic Presidents with feet of clay and lump them all together with "They all do. it", shall we newbie?

This is not the same.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. There is no doubt that Trump is awful in every respect
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 01:38 PM
Feb 2018

My only point is that his extramarital affairs are not all that relevant to what makes him an awful POTUS and despicable human being.

Great presidents have had affairs and have still been great presidents.

Trump is an awful president for other reasons that we are all well aware of here.

tenderfoot

(8,438 posts)
46. To the party (GOP) that boasts of being morally superior than the other it may matter
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:08 PM
Feb 2018

Considering that the people that targeted Clinton (Gingrich, Barr, Livingston, Hyde, etc...) too had extra-marital affairs. While targeting Clinton.

dalton99a

(81,637 posts)
24. The entire GOP/Christian conservative complex is not just ignoring/tolerating it
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:18 AM
Feb 2018

I bet they're applauding it

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
20. Except for one leetle detail: these gals are getting paid off
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:10 AM
Feb 2018

which in the case of Stormy Daniels was illegal

and in most cases is known as blackmail

Ask John Edwards about that

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
39. And I agree with you. This is SOP for the rich and famous. But there's another aspect to this
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 12:48 PM
Feb 2018

I had never heard of the "catch and kill" thing before, where the media buys a story and buries it

this actually increases the odds of blackmail, and for sure reeks of influence peddling

kinda the opposite of fake news if you think about it---hiding the truth

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
30. Trump cares
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 10:35 AM
Feb 2018

He spent money on the coverup. Cannot afford to have Melania divorce him and challenge the prenup. The enemy of our enemy is our friend. Keep the pressure on.

tenderfoot

(8,438 posts)
45. If Trump's abuse of a 13 year old comes to light, will you again bring up Bill Clinton?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 02:01 PM
Feb 2018

Did you actually vote for Bill Clinton?

Just curious. Because you pull this "but Democrats do it" crap every time one Trump's dalliances is exposed or when a Republican does something really fucked up.

BTW, I really don't think you're a democrat, progressive, liberal, etc...

Just so you know.

Kaleva

(36,361 posts)
48. His supporters are lost causes and not that important
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:03 PM
Feb 2018

The people who voted for Trump simply because they didn't like Hillary and thought Trump was the lesser of two evils are more important. The murky middle.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
4. Pecker
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:26 AM
Feb 2018

irony is long dead

Six former A.M.I. employees told me that Pecker routinely makes catch-and-kill arrangements like the one reached with McDougal. “We had stories and we bought them knowing full well they were never going to run,” Jerry George, a former A.M.I. senior editor who worked at the company for more than twenty-five years, told me. George said that Pecker protected Trump. “Pecker really considered him a friend,” George told me. “We never printed a word about Trump without his approval.”

Maxine Page, who worked at A.M.I. on and off from 2002 to 2012, including as an executive editor at one of the company’s Web sites, said that Pecker also used the unpublished stories as “leverage” over some celebrities in order to pressure them to pose for his magazines or feed him stories.

Several former employees said that these celebrities included Arnold Schwarzenegger, as reported by the Los Angeles Times, and Tiger Woods. (Schwarzenegger, through an attorney, denied this claim. Woods did not respond to requests for comment.) “Even though they’re just tabloids, just rags, it’s still a cause of concern,” Page said. “In theory, you would think that Trump has all the power in that relationship, but in fact Pecker has the power—he has the power to run these stories. He knows where the bodies are buried.”

beaglelover

(3,496 posts)
35. I wouldn't doubt that Melanoma and Trump have an open marriage. I'm sure she doesn't mind....
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 11:11 AM
Feb 2018

keeps her from having to have sex with that pig. She got her power, money and child, she's happy to let him screw around behind her back.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
50. I think she minds being humiliated in public. I don't think she minds the fact that
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:10 PM
Feb 2018

he sleeps with other people. She probably thinks, better them than me. Honestly, what woman in her right mind would sleep with that disgusting, orange tub of lard unless their was something in it for her financially. Nobody sleeps with him out of lust, and certainly not out of love.

Kaleva

(36,361 posts)
51. Then these allegations being made public humilate her.
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:17 PM
Feb 2018

You may be right though. As long as there was discretion, she didn't mind at all as Trump was getting his jollies with other women and left her alone.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
58. that surely is a loving, warm, emotional attachment baby Trump has for his absentee dad
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:27 PM
Feb 2018


reality: that looks bloody awkward
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