FL Shooter's name: Nicholas Cruz. (spelling unknown)

[Honeycombe8]

Heard it on ABC news. He's in custody.

[LonePirate]

1. A white male mass shooter? Who didn't see that coming?

[Honeycombe8]

10. My mistake. He MIGHT be Hispanic (last name "Cruz"). n

[IluvPitties]

29. Hispanics/Latinos are of any race.

I am a black Hispanic myself.

[underpants]

2. BBC has it. Link. Nicholas Cruz. 19 years old. Former student.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43066226

[Honeycombe8]

4. +1. nt

[janterry]

3. He might be white

or hispanic? or Latino

[MFM008]

5. Maybe Cruise?

Well have to see.

[Honeycombe8]

8. That BBC article says "Nikolas Cruz, 19." nt

[FM123]

26. Yes, that is what our local news here says is the correct spelling.

[Honeycombe8]

6. Oh, that's true. Geez, I hope he's not an illegal immigrant or Dreamer. I doubt it.

I don't think any of the mass shooters so far have been "refugees" or "illegal immigrants" or Dreamers.

[ananda]

20. If he's an immigrant, it will just give the rightwing more ammo.

Today I heard a wealthy bigoted women say: This is my country,
and I won't let anybody ruin it.

By "anybody" she meant immigrants and non-whites.

[Honeycombe8]

22. +1. The Hispanic name will be enough for them to do that. nt

[MaryMagdaline]

7. He is white Hispanic * we have many white Hispanics in Florida from Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina etc.

[janterry]

13. If he identifies as Latino

would he - possibly - also call himself white Latino?

I have a good friend who is PR and she would say she is Latina - (she wouldn't say 'white' - just latina - )

[MaryMagdaline]

17. Latino is not a very common word here

People say Hispanic or Latin). "Latino" is generally a West Coast Word. I am not saying he can't be of Mexican or Central American heritage but the majority of Hispanics in Dade and Broward are white hispanics. In broward, a lot of Colombians and Venezuelans. He was white in the photo. Hispanics here refer to other whites as anglos, not whites but I hardly hear the younger ones say anything but their own ethnicity, i.e. Peruvian, Panamanian, Irish etc. A Cuban or Venezuelan might call me, an Irish American "American," or "Anglo" but not white.

I never knew Anglos were called white until I saw the movie, Mi Vida Loca. My husband never heard that either.

[janterry]

19. I don't know South FL that well

I lived in Tally for about 16 years (and g-ville for 2) - there isn't much of a hispanic/latin population up there. I worked in the prisons, though - but those guys (and women) called themselves by their country -

My friend lives 'down south' (south FL).

[MaryMagdaline]

24. Interesting * sad times but I love ethnic American history

In the 70's it used to be fun to talk roots but now I am afraid someone will think I am ICE if I discuss backgrounds.

[MaryMagdaline]

18. I know Justice Sotomayor uses the word

Latina and she is from New York. I wonder if Puerto Ricans in Florida use that term. I have not heard them use it. My very close friend born in New York but settled in Miami uses Hispanic or Latin but she is my age, pushing 60.

[MaryMagdaline]

21. Why is this important? White Hispanics generally

Identify as Republicans here and with Evangelicals. There is political unanimity among republicans and no backlash will be expected. This is a horror show but we should not expect ethnic backlash from the deplorables. I expect we will find he is one of them. I mean capital D Deplorable. He obviously is a deplorable human being.

[Honeycombe8]

23. Hispanics from Central and South America are part Indian....

Unless they moved there later, I guess. The Indians and Spanish, when Spain went in there, merged or whatever you call it.

That's what I've seen in documentaries. The Mayans and whoever else settled the Central and S America areas.

Hispanics from Spain are white. I don't know about Cuba.

[MaryMagdaline]

25. Yes but in South Florida we tended to get the

White/European immigrants, not mixed, i.e. The white flight from Cuba and Latin America. If you only knew Cuban immigrants and not the real Cubans, you would think they had no African/Cubans although the Island is majority or plurality black. Same with the Venezuelans here. If they have Indian ethnicity it is not evident. Argentina is the whitest country in the Western Hemisphere and almost all their immigrants to south Florida are white.

[SoCalMusicLover]

9. Facts Don't Matter - Drumpf Will Call Him A Muslim

Sarah Huckster Sanders will say that he's a Muslim.

So it is written, so it be done.

[Honeycombe8]

14. No...they'll say his "people" are from a sh*thole country, and/or illegal immigrants.

Either one (Muslim or Hispanic) serves their purpose.

[Egnever]

11. Full name is Nicolas de Jesus Cruz

https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nicolas-nikolas-nick-cruz-florida-school-shooter-gunman-instagram/

[Honeycombe8]

12. Uh-oh. I can imagine the tweets that are coming. He may have reddish hair...

but it may be dyed. Read that he has red hair, and photos seem to show it's reddish. Could be dyed, tho.

[Honeycombe8]

30. You stop with the bashing.

What ARE you talking about? My post didn't say anything about white.

And YES...we are ALL talking about how Trump will use this as opportunity to not pass DACA, if the shooter is Hispanic.

[obamanut2012]

15. He is white hispanic

We watched helicopter live footage of the bastrad being chased down and taken into custody.

[Honeycombe8]

16. Like Ted Cruz?

One of his ancestors (parent or grandparent) is Hispanic?

[RKP5637]

27. Chilling, here is more of it, I didn't want to make it an OP. Really disturbing posts.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nikolas-cruz-florida-instagram-nicolas-nicholas-social-media/

[mexigrl64]

31. Angry White Man

I figure by now everyone realizes that he was adopted. We don't know his background. Nor do we know if he was raised as a Latino (yes, there is a difference). Here is a quote from the white supremacist organization he apparently was involved in:

“He would always talk about how he felt whites were a bit higher than everyone,” Charo said. “He’d be like, ‘My people are over here industrializing the world and starting new things, while your people [meaning blacks and Latinos] are just taking up space.’”

I'd say he was an angry young white man.

[Honeycombe8]

32. Oh, wow. Trump just feeds these people with raw meat. nt

[gopiscrap]

33. welcome to DU

[gopiscrap]

34. oops: welcome to DU

[malaise]

35. He wanted Obama dead

He was a very troubled young man but he was also a RACIST