Listen to these children screaming in fear of their lives. Yes, its painful to hear, but listen.

[herding cats]

This is not what growing up is supposed to be like and yet this is becoming a new normal here in the US.

Link to tweet

?

We all need to be outraged that children in the US are now so easily subjected to this. This is what our culture has lead us to, and no amount of thoughts and prayers will fix this mess.

[malaise]

1. This should be sent to all the NRA politicians

everywhere and played on loud speakers outside the NRA HQ

[lpbk2713]

7. I dare those mofos to claim fake news.

Not after it was recorded live.

[malaise]

10. Alex Jones will declare that it's all staged

in 3...2...1

[jmowreader]

49. That's not what he's claiming...

I went to that nest of vipers. Ugh.

The InfoWars people found a photo of the shooter dressed in a shirt with a Soviet flag on it, and they found a Democratic voter registration for a "Nicolas Cruz" who lives in Broward. The shooter spells his name Nikolaus and elections officials are anal about spelling, but we won't hold that against little Alex, now will we?

So...this school was shot up by a commie Democrat, at least according to the InfoWars people.

We also learn that Ross Ulbricht was given a "life sentence with no possibility of parole" for "running a website."

This is the website he was running...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)

I don't know how many other websites view "putting out hits on people" as an ordinary course of business, but Ulbricht did that very thing six different times.

[tblue37]

61. He has already suggested it is a false flag and that Democrats are probably guilty

of setting it up.

[ffr]

46. Conservative TV and radio start their attacks on the victims in 3-2-1

You know it's coming and it's absolutely sickening that it is allowed to continue.

[oberliner]

84. More likely they were say the shooter is a left-wing liberal

And that the teachers should have been armed.

[herding cats]

8. It should be!

Someone needs to hold them to task for what they’ve eneabled in our country!

[CincyDem]

9. I hate to say this but...

...I have to wonder if, as painful as video like this is to see...I wonder if it's going to be the critical public relations tool that finally turns the tide on the political apathy of gun control.

To read the stories is one thing.
To hear accounts from survivors is one thing.
To see the EMS folks outside shaking their heads is one thing.

To see virtually live, in progress unedited video feels like a completely different thing.

Something's got to change.

[malaise]

12. We can hope

This cannot continue

[lostnfound]

19. This can and will continue. Dont politicize more security for schools thoughts and prayers

Maybe this time they will institute body scanners for schools. Some company can make money off of it and we will have security like the airports. The. The venues will change, but the shootings won’t.

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. GOP will never go against the NRA and now Putin who is partnered with the NRA.

We have to do it, they will NEVER do it.

They have no patriotism or decency, NRA and GOP are for profit operations which are now partnered with Vladimir Putin.

[BigmanPigman]

33. Don't forget that the Religious Right has deep pockets

full of $$$ to donate while they are once again "praying for the poor victims". Fucking hypocrites!

[Eliot Rosewater]

34. The religious right has partnered with Putin as well, because to them

a woman having sex without their consent is far more dangerous than Putin.

[BigmanPigman]

38. Yep, and all of them

(Putin, NRA and Religious Right) are donating BIGLY to the GOP in the midterms. NOT GOOD!

[SoCalMusicLover]

28. There Were LOTS Of Videos From Vegas

Did not make difference then, won't now. This too will pass.

[Ahpook]

40. Those fucking ghouls don't care

Money is the only thing that speaks to them. This is glaringly obvious!

Oh, and cue up the freaks saying this was staged for gun control

[moondust]

51. Exactly.

Came here to suggest the loudspeakers at NRA HQ plus calling the NRA on the phone and playing the audio.

[malaise]

53. I hope folks play those tapes in Town Halls as well

[RKP5637]

2. Now the US will go through it's typical phase of mourning, how could this happen, it will

never happen again. And it will be forgotten, nothing will be done. And the NRA will rejoice as more guns are sold. I live in a really really stupid country.

[SoCalMusicLover]

29. Welcome To The Party Pal

It's ok, you're one of the smart ones.

[RKP5637]

54. As my friends say, the more stupid you are the easier it is to live in America. And so many

Americans have become dolts, walking in the ruts of life.

[RKP5637]

56. This is chilling. His posts and pictures ...

https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nikolas-cruz-florida-instagram-nicolas-nicholas-social-media/

[Ahpook]

44. I don't know what it will take

One would think Sandy Hook would spur a movement

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. So many people say that airing footage and results of mass shootings is what it will take to bring

change. I'd love it if the kids with their phones and social media apps were the ones who spark change.

[malaise]

14. That would be great

I hope so

[RKP5637]

15. That's what started to bring the Vietnam war to a close, airing actual shootings and deaths

in Vietnam. The US needs a swift kick in the ass. If politicians weren't busy stuffing their pockets with NRA money maybe something could be done.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

16. I'm specifically talking about the phones and apps that so many say are useless time-wasters.

Kids know how to use them. They're media natives.

[RKP5637]

18. Definitely, and what they have captured should be aired!!! On national TV, etc. n/t

[appalachiablue]

41. For Vietnam that was it exactly, visceral, contemporary images

of the war's brutality and violence that made an entirely new impact and difference unknown previously. Nothing comes as close to capturing the actual horror, up close and personal as film or audio accounts.

Same for the scenes and sounds of beatings and violence against participants in the Civil Rights and Vietnam War eras that were shown around the world and preserved as lasting records.

[RKP5637]

52. Now, it's all pacified and hidden. I bet a lot of people have no idea of the horrors we are doing

(and others) in other countries. And here, the truth is hidden, out of sight, out of mind.

[appalachiablue]

65. That's so totally wrong. People and families suffer, die and live

with injuries, scars and economic effects, so MSM needs to be made do a lot more personal, close up coverage of the scenes. In- the-moment action, the fear, panic and wounding of kids and adults recorded on phones. If traditional media IS doing much of this, I'm missing it.

Not a big social media user, but what I see on boards like this is shocking and sickening. This declining country of weekly shootings and growing hate and fear- how much worse can it get, and why is nothing being done. The same issues over and over.

Americans are 'too sensitive' to view atrocities in depth via real live footage is maybe one explanation, but it's BS. Something needs to wake people up, run the actual first hand coverage, (not opinions by usual 'experts'), wall to wall on television channels and establishment media websites, day and night! Everything else in the media is wide open, why not the targets and victims recordings...

[herding cats]

21. Im hoping videos like this help break people out of their stupor.

Too many people appear to have become immune to the horror of these shootings.

[Bucky]

74. Like Sandy Hook did. Like Las Vegas did.

fuck us

[herding cats]

78. There werent voices of the children in fear during Sandy Hook, but I understand you.

I’m just trying to break us out of this lunacy still. I haven’t give up yet.

[JI7]

81. i think those who would be affected by such a thing already support gun control

[herding cats]

82. Some do, yes.

Otheres still live in a bubble of denial as to the prevalence and reality of these shootings.

I’ve interacted with many people today who where shaken by this event which were new people to me. I’m not saying it was this cell phone video that lead them to me, for some it was the news that this was the 18th shooting to take place in a school this year on the news this evening. I will say most of the reactions to this clip were more hopeful than I’d expected.

I block RW trolls on my political social media, which I’m open about. Not Republicans who are thoughtful, just troll like comment/accounts. I’ve had this rule since 2013, so my followers expect a level of decency which I think leads to more open comments. I also only maintain 2Kish followers per account. I found out I can’t manage more than that, which makes me a small fry. So, my experience will be limited to my small sample.

[Funtatlaguy]

30. Not just footage...must be very graphic

Closeup shots of dead mangled bodies, especially young children is the only answer now.
I can’t believe I’m saying that.
But, it’s true.
Law enforcement people I know have convinced me of this.
They say far away pics of dead bodies covered by blankets has no effect on a public desensitized by so much gun violence.
It must shock the senses.
But, our media will never do it.

[mrs_p]

4. I cannot. Every day I already fear this.

After I get my little girl on the bus and wave her one last kiss good bye through the window, I pray this will not happen to her that day. That she’ll come back to us that day.

She’s in first grade and her classroom is the closest to the front door. Truly my greatest fear.

[herding cats]

66. I can understand that.

Even though you can’t listen yourself, please share it with others. We really need to impress the reality of these shootings on those who’d prefer to deny what’s taking place.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. Also shows the importance of a good active shooter training.

[SoCalMusicLover]

31. Really? So Training Resulted In Only 17 Dead

YAY!

[WhiskeyGrinder]

35. No, I'm saying that their training probably wasn't very good. Sitting in a room and screaming

is generally a bad idea.

[SoCalMusicLover]

36. Training Is Little Match For An AR-15 & Multiple Magazines

I suppose it might help a tiny bit, but if someone has an AR-15, lots are going to die, and there is little that can prevent that.

[herding cats]

67. Theyre children.

They’re not trained solders or police, they’re children in school. That we’d expect them to react otherwise is a symptom of everything that’s wrong with our culture right now.

I’m not being hateful, I’m just pointing out how we can easily be lead astray in our thinking under our current culture. It’s inherently wrong to rob children of their sense of safety at school. There’s no excuses or exceptions. We’ve failed them.

[Bucky]

75. Actually, what you're looking at is evidence that the training worked

I mean, a guy was firing a gun just out in the Hall. Of course some kids are going to scream. But the way they were all hunkered down shows the training doing exactly what it's supposed to do.

Active shooter training will not end the shooting spree. It only keeps a mob of students out of the way so that police officers can't identify and stop the shooter ASAP.

Of course it is horrifying to look at, but it would be even more terrifying if there was a mob of students rushing out through the Halls and out of doors all at once. And there probably would have been more than 17 killed in the ensuing chaos because the police would take longer to interdict the shooter.

Of course the real solution is ending the gun distribution.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

6. Thank you for posting this.

I honestly think that photos of those murdered in these kinds of incidents should be widely shown. Most people haven't a clue how destructive bullets can be.

[TEB]

11. I just sent this too several gun nuts I know

I have not heard back from them yet

[herding cats]

17. Good.

I’ve done the same and only one responded. They said it was tragic. I guess the rest have to get told how to react?

[SoCalMusicLover]

32. Thoughts & Prayers

Tell him it will be tragic when one of his children or loved ones is killed.

[ProudLib72]

20. Mah gun wud nevah do somethin bad like that!

Der a der der.

[TEB]

22. No response from them yet

[ProudLib72]

23. Don't hold your breath

[Bucky]

76. I'm sure in time you'll get one of the canned responses

maybe something about arming teachers or victim pools or, in a pinch, and maybe a lecture on how much worse would be if the government could subdue an unarmed citizenry (like Hitler did, of course)

[RKP5637]

13. AND THE FUCKEN POLITICIANS won't do a damn thing, those that serve at the pleasure of the NRA.

[renate]

24. Thats very powerful

No parent or normal human can bear the idea of kids being terrified for their lives like that.

[Egnever]

25. ugh that is hard to watch

Schools seem to be becoming very dangerous places to send our children.

[mnhtnbb]

45. "Schools seem to be becoming very dangerous places to send our children. "

That's exactly what the Republican $hitbuckets want. They do not want public education.

[underpants]

26. Playing this at a Congressional hearing or a NRA presser would be interesting

I don't know if I can actually listen to it.

[herding cats]

68. If you cant listen, could you at least share this, please?

I think it’s important people hear them and know their fear. We as a culture have let this happen and only we as a culture can stop this. If people don’t know how it effects these children they can too easily compartmentalize their personal reactions and move on.

[MFM008]

37. Unbelievable

Just unbelievable.

[Sam McGee]

39. This sounds familiar . . .

I did three combat tours in Vietnam. This belongs in the jungle, not in a classroom.

The horrible part is, I still wake up at night hearing gunshots. These innocent kids will never be the same.

I'm sick. Just sick.

[malaise]

43. It's not right brother

Not right at all and I know your pain - I had a nephew in Iraq

[dchill]

58. +1,000,000

[Leith]

42. Holy Fuck

Every rethug in the country, the NRA, every venue that holds gun shows, and more I can't think of right now - they need to see this with the caption "YOU DID THIS"

[nikatnyte]

47. Unfortunately, to some, that's the sound of American becoming "great again"

[smirkymonkey]

48. Sickening. I feel physically ill.

No child should ever have to go through something like this. But gunners have to have their guns!

[WestIndianArchie]

50. Guns

This is outrageous...It is a problem that MUST be solved

1. We have to look at rescinding the corporate charter of the NRA (its chartered in NY state)

2. Hold the gun manufacturers legally liable for their product.

3. Use Big data analysis to spot, those likely to commit mass shootings and round them up.

It has to stop. We have to make it stop, even if our bought and paid for lawmakers will not. This is absolutely insane.

[Sophia4]

55. How can anyone claim to be pro-life and support no-questions-asked gun ownership?

[Skittles]

77. gun humping coward logic

[Jarqui]

57. Virginia Tech, Columbine, Sandy Hook ...

Every time, it is so outrageous, you think we will finally come to our senses.

This one in 1966 is the first school shooting I remember
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/an-ex-marine-goes-on-a-killing-spree-at-the-university-of-texas

I was trying to think of what has materially changed since 1966. I'm not sure much has.

[jambo101]

59. Tragic

But the bigger tragedy is nothing will be done about curbing this type of violence and we just sit back and wait for it to happen again and again.

[tblue37]

60. Did you see the video with their hands raised as the SWAT team comes into their room?

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One kid's hands were shaking violently with fear as he held them up. He is so terribly traumatized.

[herding cats]

69. I saw that, too.

It ripped my heart to pieces. I don’t want to exploit these poor kids, but I do want people to grasp how traumatic these events are for them. Yes, even the ones who survive these shootings have a lifetime of trauma that will alter the course of their lives. No matter how brave they may sound when they’re interviewed later, these horrific events scar them forever.

[tblue37]

62. From HuffPo:

We’re Averaging One School Shooting Every 60 Hours In 2018
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/school-shootings-2018_us_5a84a68ee4b0058d55659ae9

A reported shooting at a South Florida high school on Wednesday marks the country’s 18th school shooting of 2018, just 45 days into the year.

That’s an average of one school shooting every 60 hours thus far in 2018, more than double the number of school shootings recorded in any of the previous three years in that same period. Those numbers are according to data compiled by the gun control advocacy organization Everytown for Gun Safety, which defines a school shooting as any time a firearm is discharged on or around a campus.

snip

[Stardust1]

63. Heartbreaking

Guns in school is insane and should never be a normal thing. We've failed our kids here.

[McCamy Taylor]

64. As Rumi wrote "The truth of the sun is in the sun, don't turn your face away."

And though the various Churches have given Christianity a bad reputation, there have been a few good Christians, like Francis:

"Lord, make me an instrument of Your peace. Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; where there is sadness, joy."

[Glimmer of Hope]

70. Beyond horrifying and heartbreaking.

[Cha]

71. I am Stunned, Outraged

and heartbroken, herding cats.

Thank you for your compelling OP.. it is so hard to hear that, but completely necessary.

It's a good thing somebody had a cell phone in the school even though they're suppose to be against the rules.

[herding cats]

72. I just want people to care, Cha.

I’m worried this may seem voyeuristic to some now, and that is miles from my intentions. I just want their voices to be heard in the actual moment their lives were forever changed. Not later when they’re trying to be tough and downplaying the impact this had on them. Children, especially teens, are so complicated I thought it was important to hear them in this one harsh moment of reality.

None of these children are responsible for what was done to them today. All that burden lies on the heads of the adults who came before them who saw these events paths being paved and chose to turn blind eyes because they never thought it would touch them, or they were biased due to their political and personal beliefs.

[Cha]

73. You are so thoughtful and right, herding.

It's surreal that here we are again. 17 beautiful souls dead today by a murderous, asshole with a grudge, and an AK15 with multiple mags.

[betsuni]

79. Pure animal terror nightmare-reality screams.

Horror.

[herding cats]

80. Yes, exactly.

This is not something any child should have to endure, let alone a child just attending school in the US.

[JI7]

83. The Sandy Hook Kids who were Killed went through this Horror

that's the worst part when i think of what happened. a bunch of kids scared and this evil just shooting each one by one. their final moments in their very very short lives.

and nothing was done about it.

[oberliner]

85. On the news they blur the word "fucking"

But show the video.

[PA Democrat]

86. This clip should be used in every campaign ad against NRA-endorsed candidates

along with the dollar amount they have taken from the NRA and their voting records on gun legislation. I am sick to DEATH of these enablers of the gun lobby. They have blood on their hands.

[niyad]

87. I wish we could make those fucking gun-loving puke bastards have to listen to this over

and over again in an endless loop, until they are screaming themselves. maybe THEN these murder-loving bastards will get the fucking message.