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Prayer And Hope Thread For The Students at Stoneman Douglas High School (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 OP
Let me say it first: No more moments of silence. None. Hekate Feb 2018 #1
We can barely have a moment of silence... forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #2
I wish comfort for the families, but for me, it is all anger, sadness, helplessness, & frustration hlthe2b Feb 2018 #3
no more prayers! handmade34 Feb 2018 #4
I pass malaise Feb 2018 #5
As I said in another post Ligyron Feb 2018 #8
You are correct malaise Feb 2018 #9
if prayer worked we wouldnt need doctors and this sort of thing would never happen nt msongs Feb 2018 #6
No. Prayer doesn't do a goddam thing except make the one who prays PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #7
Fuck prayers and hope. How about sane gun control? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #10
Some words from Martin Buber Bad Thoughts Feb 2018 #11
That made me choke up Hekate Feb 2018 #12

hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
3. I wish comfort for the families, but for me, it is all anger, sadness, helplessness, & frustration
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:00 PM
Feb 2018

I'm not devoid of hope, but .... the kind of sanity that would make a true difference is in short supply and I, like the others here, don't know how to change that.




Support and hope for a better day, a better time, for the families, the wounded, the friends.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
4. no more prayers!
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:23 PM
Feb 2018

write a letter, donate some money, protest outside a legislators office, etc... but no more worthless prayers

Ligyron

(7,633 posts)
8. As I said in another post
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:34 PM
Feb 2018

If graphic photos of dead, innocent children were widely disseminated in a timely manner - maybe, just maybe we'd see some type of action.

But I don't see that happening.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
7. No. Prayer doesn't do a goddam thing except make the one who prays
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 06:34 PM
Feb 2018

feel virtuous.

How about something more substantial.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,724 posts)
10. Fuck prayers and hope. How about sane gun control?
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:17 PM
Feb 2018

Which will never happen because every time this kind of thing happens, all anybody ever does is offer meaningless, useless prayers that do nothing but make you feel better because you think you're doing something.

Bad Thoughts

(2,524 posts)
11. Some words from Martin Buber
Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:22 PM
Feb 2018

"There is a famous story told in Chassidic literature that addresses this very question. The Master [teacher] teaches the student that God created everything in the world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson.

One cleaver student asks: 'What lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did God create them?'

The Master responds: 'God created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all -- the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that God commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. And look at the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right.'

'This means,' the Master continued, 'that when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say 'I pray that God will help you.' Instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no God who can help, and say: 'I will help you'.

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